Wolf Pack

cantom said:
No problemo...just get some cupronickel milsurp ammo...they won't know it's not real silver till they've already died...

I know where to get some of that ;)

I've rolled jackrabbit with .22lr and seen them get up and run . A .22lr is only going to get a 60 - 100 lb wolf madder . A .22mag will hurt them abit more and thats only if you can get an accurate shot off . A situation like this is going to be fast and furious.
A 12ga with buckshot will work for defense purposes.
 
Are you kidding me?

Why not? said:
Actually, Gentlemen, wolves take quite a bit of killing..........far more than a coyote! It has amazed me, and several other guys up here, who have watched our big timber wolves take what appear to be perfect hits from 7mm and 300 Mags, only to get back up and take off.

River Rat shot one a few years ago with his 358 Norma Mag. Broke the near shoulder, went right through the lungs, and exited. It took that hit, and still had fight in him when we got to it about three minutes later. I have seen grzzlies expire much quicker

They are very, very tough, and laugh at 22 rimfire rounds of all persuasion. ;)

Ted

Please tell me you are pulling my leg. What you said terrifies me to the marrow of my bones: no kidding. There are wolves all around and sometimes within Iqaluit. One Inuit hunter told me he was looking to pick up a Norinco M-14. I thought he was an armchair commando just looking for an excuse to buy a paramilitary rifle. Maybe I was wrong.

For me, the problem with an M-14 clone is limited magazine capacity and the cold. What if the damn thing freezes up at the wrong time? The weather can shift radically any day up here. It is possible to have rain and then freezing temperatures immediately afterwards. The Chinese whiz bang might freeze up at the critical moment leading to much embarrassment.

From what I have read on this thread, the Enfield Mk 5 seems like the best bet. Still, I wish I could hedge my bets with a Russian semi-auto like an SKS or AK. I think those guns would work in any weather. But with five round mags, they do not have the capacity to handle a wolf pack.

The “kinder gentler” Canada we live in would rather see me eaten by a wolf than allow for large capacity magazine. Criminals can get them anytime, I am sure. But people like me are scared S***less of getting pinched by the cops. The politically correct elite who run this country love animals and hate people.

Big
 
Anyone with experience on the Remington 7615?
I've only fondled it at the store. Seemed a bit on the heavy/bulky side, but it doesn't sound like you'll be walking a whole lot.
It's .223, pump and therefore comes with a 10 rd mag!
 
I would say any 8 shot capacity pump shotgun your familiar with with 000 shot! My personal shotgun is a win defender its equipped with 2 sidesaddles and of course the 8 rd tube mag 8 rds= 64 32cal lead bullets enough firepower to thwart an attack at close range ! But I,m no expert, this is the defence I,m comfortable with if the sh*t hits my fan!:shotgun: :evil:
 
I live in Iqaluit and I keep hearing about all these wolf sightings. Always seems to be somebody's friends, sister's boyfriend type deal, seeing them. I've been out wondering around trying to see some for myself but no luck yet. Lots of dogs running free though I'll say that. The Inuit fellas I talked to tell me the wolves around here are pretty skittery. I don't think they pose much of a danger to humans...now polar bears, that's another story. :D
 
Wolves About

Alleycat said:
I live in Iqaluit and I keep hearing about all these wolf sightings. Always seems to be somebody's friends, sister's boyfriend type deal, seeing them. I've been out wondering around trying to see some for myself but no luck yet. Lots of dogs running free though I'll say that. The Inuit fellas I talked to tell me the wolves around here are pretty skittery. I don't think they pose much of a danger to humans...now polar bears, that's another story. :D


A guy near the old courthouse had a skinned wolf in his front yard. Also, my boss saw a wolf in Apex. The cab driver mentioned earlier was not a BS'er type. There are lots of reports of wolves about, from credible sources. And you know what? I would be scared anyways. Getting eaten alive is as bad as it can get. Is there anything worse?

I hear a single wolf is skitish. Wolves in a group are not.

WRT pump shotguns, I do not have much experience with shotguns. I tried an 870 and fired about 40 rounds through it, on two occassions. I short-stroked jamed it several times. I heard from persons training wildlife officers that short-stroke jams are common on the range. Also, I wonder how a pump would work in adverse weather. I prefer a rifle.

Big
 
Bigbill said:
A guy near the old courthouse had a skinned wolf in his front yard. Also, my boss saw a wolf in Apex. The cab driver mentioned earlier was not a BS'er type. There are lots of reports of wolves about, from credible sources. And you know what? I would be scared anyways. Getting eaten alive is as bad as it can get. Is there anything worse?

I hear a single wolf is skitish. Wolves in a group are not.

WRT pump shotguns, I do not have much experience with shotguns. I tried an 870 and fired about 40 rounds through it, on two occassions. I short-stroked jamed it several times. I heard from persons training wildlife officers that short-stroke jams are common on the range. Also, I wonder how a pump would work in adverse weather. I prefer a rifle.

Big

No doubt there are wolves out on the tundra and maybe a few wonder close or maybe even into town. I really doubt you have much to worry about though. On the other hand if you want to take extra precaution, go for it.
 
They can smell fear too...How does a 12 gauge 20" Remington 870 with a 3 rd mag tube extension loaded with 00 buck sound? I'd feel pretty well armed and that is a pretty reliable setup. If the wolves are that tough that a 22lr wouldn't faze them...


Bigbill said:
Please tell me you are pulling my leg. What you said terrifies me to the marrow of my bones: no kidding. There are wolves all around and sometimes within Iqaluit. One Inuit hunter told me he was looking to pick up a Norinco M-14. I thought he was an armchair commando just looking for an excuse to buy a paramilitary rifle. Maybe I was wrong.

For me, the problem with an M-14 clone is limited magazine capacity and the cold. What if the damn thing freezes up at the wrong time? The weather can shift radically any day up here. It is possible to have rain and then freezing temperatures immediately afterwards. The Chinese whiz bang might freeze up at the critical moment leading to much embarrassment.

From what I have read on this thread, the Enfield Mk 5 seems like the best bet. Still, I wish I could hedge my bets with a Russian semi-auto like an SKS or AK. I think those guns would work in any weather. But with five round mags, they do not have the capacity to handle a wolf pack.

The “kinder gentler” Canada we live in would rather see me eaten by a wolf than allow for large capacity magazine. Criminals can get them anytime, I am sure. But people like me are scared S***less of getting pinched by the cops. The politically correct elite who run this country love animals and hate people.

Big
 
ontgunner said:
Anyone with experience on the Remington 7615?
I've only fondled it at the store. Seemed a bit on the heavy/bulky side, but it doesn't sound like you'll be walking a whole lot.
It's .223, pump and therefore comes with a 10 rd mag!

Wrong, it's limited legally to 5 rounds.
 
Wolf attacks?

Bigbill said:
There were a number of wolf sittings around the city of Iqaluit over the past couple of years. I spoke to a cab driver this weekend who saw a pack of three wolves roaming within the city limits. Many people now take arms with them, even for short walks on the tundra. One man I met had a Ruger Mini 14 in 223, and his wife had a 30-30 lever gun.

I know the tree huggers/granola munchers say wolves do not attack humans. Inuit hunters say otherwise. I spoke to a man who told me he parked his skidoo outside a cabin, only to be set upon by a wolf pack. He ran inside the cabin, barricaded the door and hid out, until the pack got bored and left. He thought about mixing it up with the snarling horde, but he only had a bolt gun and did not like the odds.

I do not know much about wolves but it seems to me the ideal weapon would be an SKS carbine with a ten round magazine. Since the mag is now illegal, I am considering a Browning BL-22. It is light, handy, accurate and easy to shoot moving targets with. It holds 15 rounds in the mag. But I am concerned the 22 LR does not pack enough punch to get the job done. On the other hand, if you hammered a few of the savages with a hollow point apiece, I do not think they would be in any shape to continue the attack. Their buddies might also reconsider their meal choice for the day.

Any thoughts?

The Inuit hunters know that wolves that have become, "garbage eaters," in short, living on welfare, can no longer be trusted and may easily become dangerous. Check this out;

http://www.hancockhouse.com/products/outbus.htm

I have a whole, authentic, chapter on wolves.

Cheers, Bruce
 
DUKE270 said:
wolves have attacked humans. We have one mauling and one death in the past 2 years in Sask. One mauling was a miner who was out for a late night walk in the north. was attacked. other was a Young Biologist student studing wolves near a baited site , he wasn't liked too much by the wolves and was killed and partially eaten. if wolves are in town i would think this would be a no brainer for law enforcement and remove the wolves by any means.


That miner was even warned about walking down that road late at night, alone! If the local guys tell you to watch out, it's in your best interest. I also agree with 'Whynot', and that wolves are very tough animals. I somehow managed to hit one near Indian Cabins on the road with a 3/4 ton truck. What would have killed a dog, only banged up the big black wolf I hit. I was also surprised at how long their legs are. That animal stood almost a foot taller than most german shepards.
Anyways, that's my only wolf story.
 
You guys obviously have not read any Farley Mowat books. If you did you would know that wolves only eat mice until the caribou come along. Then they get out their stethoscope's, give all the caribou their annual medical check-ups and then eat the sick ones. :popCorn:
 
My guess is you'll need only one shot to scare them off. I think the "you shoot one, the rest will jump on you" stays in Hollywood. Just my thought. There was one time my dad was awaken in the early morning by a pack of 4 wolves going through our stuff just outside the cabin. The moment he opened the door, they all took off. All the wolves I've shot, I've used only my Rem. 700 .223.
 
Maqaiti said:
My guess is you'll need only one shot to scare them off. I think the "you shoot one, the rest will jump on you" stays in Hollywood. Just my thought. There was one time my dad was awaken in the early morning by a pack of 4 wolves going through our stuff just outside the cabin. The moment he opened the door, they all took off. All the wolves I've shot, I've used only my Rem. 700 .223.


Thanks Maqaiti, I think this is the most sensible post in this thread. :rockOn:
 
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Maqaiti said:
My guess is you'll need only one shot to scare them off. I think the "you shoot one, the rest will jump on you" stays in Hollywood.

My thoughts exactly. I know a guy who ended up surrounded by wolves while out hunting. He said they kept circling around him, showing themselvesonce in a while. Just checking to see if he was a fighter or an easy meal.

He shot the first one and the rest of the wolves just stood there. He shot another and the rest hightailed it. One was proabably enough, but he was pelt hunting after the first shot...:D :D
 
Alleycat said:
Thanks Maqiaiti, I think this is the most sensible post in this thread. :rockOn:
It also depends on the situation on hand. How hungry are these guys? A starving animal can really surprise you. I think wolves are fairly timid by default, but I don't see a reason why they wouldn't act out of character, wounded or starving.
 
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