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- Vancouver, BC
FWIW: My BCG arrived today at Kodiak in Windsor, and it's already been packaged for return to me.
Wolverine & Kodiak - Announcement
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ZEN403
CGN Regular
- Location
- AB, Canada
Well Done Gentlemen! This is the single best method I have ever seen for a recall. Simple and easy to know what and how.
Great work!
Great work!
Unexpected
Regular
- Location
- Ontario
All of you guys complaining about this recall make me laugh you realize you are buying a fire arm that was built essentially from the ground up based on another design and this was done one year ago or so, it’s not like you bought a brand new ar15 that has been worked on and perfected since the 1960’s. There are going to be some bumps in the road, if you don’t like it you could always go buy one of those 2 grand or more rifles
iceangler650
Regular
- Location
- Ontario
Sent mine out friday got back the threaded carrier and handle wed happy I no longer have the magnet handle in mine!
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Greglc
CGN Regular
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- PrinceGeorge, BC
I can't say enough about their turn around time, shipped mine from BC on Tuesday, got return ship notice at noon today. I said to my wife, they would have to have someone working full time on this, you have to figure 10 minutes per package to open, check, mark, repack and ship, at 1000 plus that have to be done, that's 166 hours. Fantastic service.
Maybe BCL, ATRS, Kodiak and MacDef should get on the table and design together a NR black-rifle system, amortizing R&D and QA... Right now, there is no compatibility and a very heterogenous market.
Unexpected
Regular
- Location
- Ontario
I think that would be a good idea, anything new to the market right now that would be considered a NR black rifle would probably sell well as long as it was cost effective like the WK
Ya. This. Im not really into losing the bolt for 2-3 months while they go through this.
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There is my answer. thanks dood.
Tyroma
CGN Regular
- Location
- Norfolk County, Ontario
Hey All...
I sent my bolt carrier group to Kodiak last week… A brand new one arrived today, complete with new threaded charging handle. I am very pleased with this result and kudos go out to Kodiak for taking ownership of their Product.
Ty
I sent my bolt carrier group to Kodiak last week… A brand new one arrived today, complete with new threaded charging handle. I am very pleased with this result and kudos go out to Kodiak for taking ownership of their Product.
Ty
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Yup, May 2nd to 14th, back in my hand with a new one.
MechanicalSparky25
Regular
- Location
- Surrey BC
Any news on what you guys figured out for this threaded bolt handle "UPGRADE" ???
I've allready sent my rifle back all the way across canada to have you fix some things.
My serial falls within the recall. I dont want to send my bolt back just to have a magnetic handle bolt approved and sent back. You should be recalling all the magnetic handles to save your aluminum receivers you sold us.
I've allready sent my rifle back all the way across canada to have you fix some things.
My serial falls within the recall. I dont want to send my bolt back just to have a magnetic handle bolt approved and sent back. You should be recalling all the magnetic handles to save your aluminum receivers you sold us.
It is very frustrating, mine has 150 rounds through it and the magnetic handle has shredded the receiver, I found chunks of aluminum floating around inside the receiver. My carrier group is going back as it is within the range. Sure hope the threaded handle fixes the problem. Quite disheartening how much damage has been caused in just a 150 rounds
Baitcaster
CGN Regular
- Location
- Toronto
Cameron SS
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Ground Zero
Your alternative is to do nothing and HOPE.
HOPE it doesn't break, or HOPE it breaks while its still under warranty.
$20 bucks is cheap insurance, and the resale value of your rifle will probably be hurt by MORE than $20 if it doesn't have the inspection mark on it.
$20 is pretty cheap piece of mind to know your rifle is good to go.
Have you been paying attention to the guys who said they got their bolt turned around in 10 days or less, and in many cases got a free upgrade to the threaded bolt knob out of it?
This is top notch service from great Canadian companies. But its voluntary, so totally your call if you want to access it or not.
It seems odd to me that they don't know which rifles out of the serial range have been treated or not. I'm in manufacturing myself and if we discover a defect we know exactly what batches are affected and to who they have been shipped to. It sounds like they just picked rifles out of the line up to experiment on and didn't record it, which I guess begs the question that if you don't know which ones you experimented on how do you know if it worked?
Cameron SS
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- Ground Zero
I see it more a case of configuration management that you would expect of a small company, and not wanting to add $50 in cost to each rifle to maintain exact records of each subcomponent that went into each firearm.
All of their parts are made in batches. Different subcomponent batches becoming available at different points in the production run. They might not know which firearms exactly went out the door with the new bad BCGS or with one of the old good ones. On any given day the guy assembling could have had access to both and without knowing any meaningful difference may have grabbed them randomly. It would be a full time job to serialize and log each component to each gun and be able to trace back to each PO or WO that created the specific subcomponent for known manufacturing issues. Taken to extremis you could have 1000 guns with hundreds of different configurations.
In a small one man shop its easy to keep great control of parts cause its all in your head. In large companies with full time QA and CM departments yeah they would have a more precise grip on stuff like this. But middle weight companies just aren't going to be like that without hurting the bottom line, and all just in case.
In the end, they know when the bad BCGs came into circulation, and know they when the bad BCGs were quarantined. And they know the guns that left the plant during that date range, and have issued the recall accordingly. That's about as good as its going to get without a full time configuration manager and that kind of inventory control over rather inexpensive parts would significantly slow production and drive cost.
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