Wolverine's WK180-C

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cz52 said:
This rifle is bad news for those on the Equipment Exchange, trying to sell AR-180Bs for 2K.
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I'd still buy an original. But only at a g now. Or less. Only reason to own one now is as a collectible in original condition. But not at a premium.

2018 is the year of the 180. The nodak was just the beginning of the sunrise.
 
If I can get this gun to accurately shoot minute of coyote out to about 250 yards with the new barrel I have for it I'll be extremely satisfied. Hopefully I ordered in time to be in the first batch.
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Would be amazing if you could integrate the gas piston block into the handguard like this Ruger SR-556 takedown

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gunnuts said:
I would really like to see a cheaper stripped down version without handguard, pistol grip and stock (and even without buffer tube), since these parts will likely be replaced, but considering it is already pretty cheap at 1000$, it’s hard to complain.
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I’m with gunnuts on this. It would be nice to see even if it is down the road.
 
Quote Originally Posted by smartcard View Post

Is there a bolt release and bolt hold?
Answer is below, quoted from the opening post.






Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine .303 View Post

Following the original ArmaLite design the bolt will lock to the rear when the last shot is fired but there is no bolt release catch. Recognizing that there is no bolt release catch we have made the reciprocating bolt handle reversible to suit either left or right handed shooters. A bolt release catch may be added in the future, no guarantee at this time that it will be in the first production run.
My fingers are crossed that it somehow does make it in time for the initial production run as it'd be awesome for the initial backers of this platform to have this much welcomed feature

This was my error, we have decided not to pursue a manual bolt release catch at this time due to extra cost. You have to remember the AK has been successful with no bolt release catch and with the AK the bolt does not even stop to the rear.
 
jory said:
How is an FRT not required? What am I missing?
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Many of you will be asking: "Where is the FRT?" the answer is simple, the FRT is pending. As the FRT is not a legal or mandatory requirement the responsibility of ensuring the rifle "is legal" rest with us, the manufacture. The WK180-C rifle receiver is a copy of the non restricted AR180-B, this receiver is already approved as produced by at least two other manufactures. On the WK180-C the barrel is 18.7 inches long, the overall length is with in prescribed limits and she is shipped with two 5 rd mags. There for she meets all the current requirements for a non - restricted firearm.
. When a firearm is manufactured outside of Canada the importer is required to obtain an International Import Certificate and the Government policy is not to issue a IIC with out first having an FRT. We were told this was a legal requirement, when in fact it is not, but it is Government policy.

It is not a fluke that the AR180-B is non restricted. We imported the first one from Armalite in 2002 she was declared prohibited by the authorities. I faxed them my presentation as to why that classification was not correct and that she should in fact be restricted or non restricted depending on barrel length. My presentation was accepted and the AR180-B was re-classified non- restricted allowing us to import and market the AR180-B for as long as she was in production.

As the WK180-C is manufactured in Canada by Kodiak Defense, there is no legal requirement for us to wait for an FRT before manufacturing and marketing the WK180-C, I have this confirming in writing from the RCMP SFSS. See following e-mail:


Good day John:

With respect to your statement: - “If Wolverine Supplies was to manufacture a semi auto center fire rifle in Canada with a 19 inch barrel I assume we could simply go ahead and market her without your inspection as there is no legal requirement to have an FRT”.


1. For the purposes of the FRT, I would like to draw a clear distinction between the “manufacturer” who makes all components from “scratch” including the receiver and barrel and is not just an assembler of components with metal working, metal finishing and woodworking skills, which accurately describes the average “gunsmith”. The former is a “manufacturer”, the latter is not.

2. I presume that Wolverine (the business entity) in the hypothetical statement above, and their supply chain have all the required licences and authorities.

Then the answer is YES, BUT the manufacturer assumes full responsibility for assuring accurate classification of the firearm and accessories such as stocks and cartridge magazines.

Be aware that other regulators may require an FRT Record for their purposes.

Regards.

Bill Etter

F.A. William (Bill) Etter
Chief Firearms Technologist
Specialized Firearms Support Services
Firearms Investigative and Enforcement Services Directorate
RCMP-CFP
Specialized Policing Services
 
LeadMonkey said:
The way I understand it from the original post, an FRT is only required before importing firearms, and as these are made in Canada, the manufacturer (Kodiak Defence) assumes all liability in the event they produce a firearm which is possibly later determined as prohibited... in this case, as it is being modelled after a firearm which was already declared non restricted (the AR180b) there is very little chance of this being declared anything other than non-restricted.

You or I or anybody can manufacture a personal firearm and submit for inspection at a later date at which time it will receive a classification in the firearms reference table (FRT)... its just way more common to wait 2-3 years for one because the vast majority of firearms are imported.
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As I understand it if you make a personal firearm that meets all the requirements for non-restricted classification you DO NOT have to submit it for examination as the FRT is not a legal requirement.
 
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