hey guys I'm thinking about putting together a new 308, maybe 300 Win Mag looking to use a Reminton 300 Action with a Duglas air gaged Bench rest Barrel. Had a guy at work tell me to go with a Robertson stock out of Ottawa insted of a Mc Millan. wounder if anyone had any suggestions or could offer up a different path. and yes I'm doing the work myself, other wise there would be no fun.
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There is a big difference in long range performance between the .308 Winchester and the .300 Winchester Magnum. I would opt for the magnum.
I would also opt for a Gaillard barrel out of Saskatchewan. I believe it will outperform any Douglas barrel.
I would also opt for a Gaillard barrel out of Saskatchewan. I believe it will outperform any Douglas barrel.
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I have a Rem 700 7mmwsm 24" stainless made up by James Hart in a light hunting gun 6.7 lbs with a Mcmillan stock, this is the most amazing cartridge I have ever owned it will shoot under 1/2" at 200 yards. from what I have found it might just be better than the very popular 6.5/284 at 1000 yards
Go to www.6mmbr.com and look up under gun of the week section #64
Rick Horst's 7mmwsm very interesting read.
as for Robertson stocks I think you should consider them , my brother visited there shop in Ottawa and was very impressed with quality and workmanship and very nice people.
hope this helps.
I have a Rem 700 7mmwsm 24" stainless made up by James Hart in a light hunting gun 6.7 lbs with a Mcmillan stock, this is the most amazing cartridge I have ever owned it will shoot under 1/2" at 200 yards. from what I have found it might just be better than the very popular 6.5/284 at 1000 yards
Go to www.6mmbr.com and look up under gun of the week section #64
Rick Horst's 7mmwsm very interesting read.
as for Robertson stocks I think you should consider them , my brother visited there shop in Ottawa and was very impressed with quality and workmanship and very nice people.
hope this helps.
Drew_CarreyAB
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http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php these guys know their stuff, I found it after looking for a while and I regularly check this site .....hope it helps
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Never seen a 300 action 
, but as far as the 300 win mag, its not that accurate, or should I say more of a chore, hit miss, to get it to shoot.
The .308 is a far better choice. If really into magnum calibers, I would look close at the 7 rem mag, I have one , Its a win 70 action, crf, stainless, douglas barrel (.90 @ muzzle , 24 inch) also stainless, and a McMillan A2 stock. Topped with a SS 16X .
With 168 gr Match it will group 5 shots into 1.5 '' @ 500 meters. Thats without working up a load. Hope this helps
, but as far as the 300 win mag, its not that accurate, or should I say more of a chore, hit miss, to get it to shoot.The .308 is a far better choice. If really into magnum calibers, I would look close at the 7 rem mag, I have one , Its a win 70 action, crf, stainless, douglas barrel (.90 @ muzzle , 24 inch) also stainless, and a McMillan A2 stock. Topped with a SS 16X .
With 168 gr Match it will group 5 shots into 1.5 '' @ 500 meters. Thats without working up a load. Hope this helps
I don't understand how you can suggest that a 308 is a 'better' choice, without knowing what he plans to shoot. To be sure, teh 300WM can shoot exactly the same projectiles as a 308, but a LOT faster - longer ranges, and less drift. And make no mistake - the 300WM can be made VERY accurate, it's a popular number in a lot of precision shooting circles.
Hell, a lot of cartridges make the grade as 'long range precision cartridges," from the 6mmbr and 6.5-284 to the 338 Lapuas and 50 BMGs
Hell, a lot of cartridges make the grade as 'long range precision cartridges," from the 6mmbr and 6.5-284 to the 338 Lapuas and 50 BMGs
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Yes , and all those have far better BC than the 300 WM
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Consider recoil as a major negative. For comp shooting, less is better.
High BC bullets at high velocity is the ideal mix. There are many ways to achieve this goal.
First off, decide what class you want to shoot in if competing. There will be a few winning combos for you to choose from.
If this is just a LR toy, consider if you will put a muzzle brake on or not. How heavy the overal weight of the rifle will be. Shooting off a table/pedestal rest or off a bipod/belly.
This helps with stock choice, which helps with recoil, which narrows down the cartridge/bullet set up. Barrel size and length will decide the type of bedding/action/stock setup you might want to use. Which then leads to balancing overal weight and any restrictions on rifle dimensions.
There really is not one right answer. Just depends on what you are trying to do. Decide on the class/rules, then reverse engineer to the rifle.
At 1000yds/m, there simply is no debate, the larger WM destroys the 308 in any and all ways. The biggest negative is recoil which is substantially higher. But then the class you would want to shoot a 300WM would allow a very heavy rifle, negating recoil issues.
But then there are other, better choices.....and so it goes.
As to Barrels, I too am very fond of Gaillard barrels. I am about to put another to the test in my new 6.5 Mystic 1000m BR rifle.
Jerry
High BC bullets at high velocity is the ideal mix. There are many ways to achieve this goal.
First off, decide what class you want to shoot in if competing. There will be a few winning combos for you to choose from.
If this is just a LR toy, consider if you will put a muzzle brake on or not. How heavy the overal weight of the rifle will be. Shooting off a table/pedestal rest or off a bipod/belly.
This helps with stock choice, which helps with recoil, which narrows down the cartridge/bullet set up. Barrel size and length will decide the type of bedding/action/stock setup you might want to use. Which then leads to balancing overal weight and any restrictions on rifle dimensions.
There really is not one right answer. Just depends on what you are trying to do. Decide on the class/rules, then reverse engineer to the rifle.
At 1000yds/m, there simply is no debate, the larger WM destroys the 308 in any and all ways. The biggest negative is recoil which is substantially higher. But then the class you would want to shoot a 300WM would allow a very heavy rifle, negating recoil issues.
But then there are other, better choices.....and so it goes.
As to Barrels, I too am very fond of Gaillard barrels. I am about to put another to the test in my new 6.5 Mystic 1000m BR rifle.
Jerry
