World greatest place to hunt!

david doyle said:
Nothing here is perfect but like you say the Fragementation in Alberta is beyond ridiculous where as in BC there are still some decent hunks protected by unbridgable rivers, mountains and other economic constraints to development.

I still see grizzly tracks on the majority of my hunts (even in some ag areas), find the odd spot where a caribou can raise a calf in peace and have yet to run out of places to explore those to me are the acid tests.

Ultimatley the only important thing is that we are all hunting and enjoying ourselves.
Click to expand...


Yeah, AB is all about resource development.

In central AB, where I hunt, we see grizzlies regularly and tracks always. But the way the gov't 'manages' the game makes you wonder.

Like this grizzly moratorium and census. I think it's all political BS. I don't trust the numbers what-so-ever. Don't believe 'em. I think the people conducting this have been manipulated. I think the gov't has deliberately fudged numbers, omitted data, ignored areas. I really believe their objective was to arrive at a number that placed the bear safely in a number range where they don't have to commit to anything.

They cannot list a number that's too low, because then there might be issues approving resource development, which is number one by miles over any real wildlife management concerns. And not too high either, cuz they want to avoid the political BS that goes along with re-instating the hunt.

Like where we work and hunt, the Swan Hills. It has been the prime grizzly habitat in Alberta for years, but the bears are shoved aside to get the oil & gas out of the ground, the forests laid down, now they are onto coalbed methane exploitation. And they ignore the grizzly. Just hope nobody notices... it's a ####ing crime IMO. Some of the bears here are still huge and in the past, before they ####ed it all up, there were B&C bears shot here... Bella Twins Worlds Record bear was from Swan Hills, etc...

There's like 1 C.O. that looks after the entire area, and he makes himself crazy trying to monitor the grizzlies, investigate grizzlies that have been killed in 'self defense' etc...

Everybody that frequents Alberta Outdoors has probably seen the threads on those 2 blonde grizzly twins. We have been watching them for 2 years; we named 'em Timothy and Amy... if you get the reference, and if you don't... oh well.
Yeah, their mother was gunned down by some buffoon, that paniced and shot the sow... terrible waste!

As to the hunt, well that's another issue. I made a conscious decision in 1982 that I would not hunt grizzlies, cuz there were not enough in my opinion. I still feel that way.
 
Demonical, Lot of truth in what you say. When the 600 ish number came out I'll admit I bought it as it was an ego stroke. I had been raving that it would be less then a 1000 and some days I 'd claim 500. In my opinion it was obvious that there just aint space for more.
If it makes you feel worse (or better) we are doing a pretty good job over here replicating your resource development practices so don't feel alone in the folly.
The saddest part to me is that I am certain with just a little bit more care and attention everyone could have exactly what they they want: jobs, profits, revenue streams, healthy waterways and sustainanle wildlife populations. It is very frustrating when you start to realize how little would need to be done differently to achieve a state of affairs we could all be proud of.

On the bright side I am often very pleased at how willing some resource players are to man up and do the right thing once they understand how little they have to bend to make a big difference. On the negative side that aint everyone!
 
Dogleg said:
Not that it matters much to me, but for the sake of arguement how many deer tags could an Albertan get last year? My son and I had 9 tags apiece in ole saskabush.;)
Click to expand...

In BC, the provincial bag limit for deer is 3, plus 15 Queen Charlotte Island deer.

So if you were a keener, you could bag 18 deer in a year. I don't know anyone that does that, I'd rather shoot one moose and 3 deer.:p
 
Pudelpointer said:
"
Using a purse sein to catch every single fish that may be returning to a stream in one set is not ecologically sustainable. Neither is the rate of logging as experienced in BC, neither are General Open Seasons for most species; can the species survive - yes. Is it a "functioning ecology"? Not even close.

.
Click to expand...

BC has half the hunters it did 30 years ago and smaller bag limits.

Hard to imagine that it won't function.

The amount of grizzly opportunity in BC is incredible. Grizzly populations have exploded in the last 10-20 years and there are more grizz than ever in BC. it's not just grizzly near the Alberta border, either. Many grizzly hunts are undersubscribed- it's 1-1 or .5-1 or 1.5-1 odds to hunt grizzly in some areas of BC. There are grizzly around my house that weren't there 10 years ago.

No, I've never hunted ALberta, but I have always liked hunting new areas, since it is fun to try new things. I like hunting more for the adventure than anything else. I'm not in a hurry to go hunt Alberta, but I'd like to hunt there and anywhere else if I have the time. This year seems pretty full, as I will hunt elk in Spetember, moose and grizz in October and in November, my favorite- blacktails!
 
One thing I don't agree with is using CWD tags......The amount of deer that acually have the disease is not worth the slaughter of all those extra deer. I have witnessed the area that I hunt go from an oasis of deer to next to nothing, people even have trouble filling doe tags nowadays. Never will I buy a tag intended for CWD purposes, and I feel that everyone else should follow along the same lines.
 
How many of the Ontario bashers have ever hunted here?
Click to expand...

I am sure your moose and deer taste just as good as our and I am betting hunt camp is as enjoyable there as here but unfortunatley ontario is located smack dab in the middle of ontario!
 
Dogleg said:
That was the plan. Whether it will work or not is a different story.
Click to expand...



I've seen it work....with the earn a buck program and a couple of terrible winters really reduced the population(80% decrese in some areas)

Up north around the tisdale area has almost no whitetail at all! A few years ago that wasn't the case but 2 trophy tags and antlerless tags to boot, as well as cold winters sure did the damage.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom