WORN CPO's. whats a good gun grease? for sig p226...

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i've got a few cpo's recently (havnt tried them out yet), they've got some apperent wear on the underside of the rails, so i've written enough in sig forum to come to the conclusion i should try grease to further minimize the wear on the rails of my sigs.
im not going to bother sending the sigs to sig sauer, would be to much of a hassle, so i've decided to keep the sigs and use them, but try to somehow to slow the wear. whether this is normal wear or not, there is many opionins but to me it looks excessive as there is bear metal and no visable hardcoat or finish left.

so my question is... being in canada whats a good gun grease, i've heard high temp wheel bearing grease is a viable solution, but does it work?, or is there some kinda specific grease made for guns... i dont know i use oil, why im asking.
 
I like to use grease for the rails. Oil, to me, seems like it is not going to do much beyond about 50 rounds - but I could be wrong. Grease, on the other hand, is still looking pretty serviceable when I clean the gun after 250-300 rounds.

What I have been using with SIGs lately is this "Ultima-lube" stuff from Wilson Combat, that you can see in the picture below. You can order it from Brownells. It works fine. I used to use the Hoppe's grease in the little brown bottle (also in the picture, with the red cap), but I can't ever find that at my local shop anymore and I don't know where to get it online - and it has basically ran out now (my GF still uses it on her guns, for now).

Whatever grease they have at your local shop, whether it be in an "eye-dropped" or a mini-caulking tube-style package... it will work fine. Grease is grease. I don't think it varies as much as gun oil... and even gun-oil doesn't vary that much IMHO.

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is brownells still selling to a canadian market?.
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Well, that has been the subject of a lot of debate in various threads. I can only tell you what my experience has been, and that is:
(1) tools, DVDs, oils, holsters, bags, etc. (what your invoice will describe as "non-State Department regulated items") are fine.
(2) anything that attaches itself to a gun (any gun part, magazine, etc.) will be listed as a "State Department regulated item" and you will get a message like this:

** NOTES ** WE HAVE CANCELLED ITEM 732-000-384
FROM YOUR ORDER. DUE TO THE DEPT. OF
STATE GUIDELINES. THE MANUFACTURER IS
NOT REGISTERED WITH THE DEPT. OF STATE

** NOTES ** SIR: HAVE CANCELLED YOUR ORDER AS THE
MANUFACTURE IS NOT REGISTERED WITH
OUR DEPT. OF STATE.

Or like this... some stuff goes through, other items canceled:

The following merchandise is in stock:

100-002-281 SIG ARMORER DVD 1 25.00 25.00


YOUR PRODUCT TOTAL IS: 25.00
Shipped Via: PP - AIR
Payment Method: VISA


** NOTES ** CANCELLED ITEM 732-000-406 FROM YOUR
ORDER, DUE TO DEPT. OF STATE
REGULATIONS. THE MANUFACTURER IS NOT
REGISTERED WITH THE DEPT. OF STATE.

The canceled item in this last one was an 8-round factory magazine for a SIG P239.

If some of you guys are still getting regulated (gun parts) items through from Brownells, then that is great. I hope they get it sorted out in the U.S. - whatever the big problem is with sending parts to Canada - but don't tell me about the $100 limit or the way it was last year or whatever, something changed this summer. A gun part of any value, I doubt they will ship it to you.

We should start a full thread on this in the General Firearms discussion section so we (or, more accurately, I) stop hi-jacking threads. That way maybe we can figure out exactly what they will or won't ship to Canada. Is it just certain manufacturers (like SIG), or is it all gun parts?
 
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I use plain old synthetic automotive grease, six buck's a tube, enough for about 3or 4 lifetime's, it is great for high or low temperature's and it stay's put, work's great on the slide rail's,
Just my opinion

Take Care
 
hey, just wanted to chime in on ghosties comments. i was talking with people recently about this .and from what i gather the 100 dollar limit is still in effect, its just that the item being "sent" has to be on an approved list to be exported, if it is not on the list you get what ghostie explained above. some places you may get lucky, some are tighter than a nuns box. its the usa. most people there dont even know where canada is. its only going to get worse with obama in the crib.

and for the question at hand, tw25b.... i got a little packet with my 226, WICKED, you can get it from brownells and they will send it. its thick grease .and sig sauer actually recommends it. a big tube of it will be on my next order.
 
I use Mobil-1 synthetic lithium grease with my P226. It's NLGI grade 2, making it thicker than most gun greases, yet it's not thick enough to adversely affect reliability.
 
TW25B by MilComm. Awesome stuff. Really stays put and has been put through the ringer as far as testing goes. It has virtually no odour, and is non toxic too (nothing worse than a headache from the nauseating smell of strong grease).

It's really not that expensive either. Buy it from Mike at MLE-Shooting Sports in the States. He has great prices and ships cheap to Canada. Get the 4oz tube, it's the better deal and will last you a long, long time.
 
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Lubriplate No. 105 for all my slide rails. Been using it for close to 20 years on my semi's. Cheap and works well.
 
Anyone know anything about 3 in 1 professional white grease in a can? How good is the grease? How good is in in +50 to -50 degree weather.
 
Having broken more than my fair share of SIG-Sauers over the years, I'd just like to chime in and say the frame will wear out whatever lube you put on it. Any reputable gun oil will reduce friction, but it won't eliminate stress on the rails.

Essentially what happens when you fire the gun is that the slide tries very hard to turn into a banana, which is why Sauer beefed up the rails in various places after spending a huge amount of money on stress analysis because of all the problems they kept having with P226s.

Sooner or later the frame will break. Certainly makes sense to lube the rails, but if you want the frame to last you need to buy one with a stainless steel frame.

P229s were notorious for the frames wearing out when they first came out (well, at least in Europe where they shoot guns more than Americans who chuck them in a drawer after 50 rounds), I think eventually they used a better alloy in the frames. However now you know why the P229 Sport came about as that was their first attempt at a stainless steel frame.

Even if the rails don't go, the frame will wear out anyway because the trigger bar spring eats through the frame behind the magazine release plate. The new coiled spring they came up with a few years ago slows the effect of it, but it still happens.

Signed, owner of a lot of SIG-Sauer slide and barrel assemblies.
 
rollie100 said:
i've got a few cpo's recently (havnt tried them out yet), they've got some apperent wear on the underside of the rails, so i've written enough in sig forum to come to the conclusion i should try grease to further minimize the wear on the rails of my sigs.
im not going to bother sending the sigs to sig sauer, would be to much of a hassle, so i've decided to keep the sigs and use them, but try to somehow to slow the wear. whether this is normal wear or not, there is many opionins but to me it looks excessive as there is bear metal and no visable hardcoat or finish left.

so my question is... being in canada whats a good gun grease, i've heard high temp wheel bearing grease is a viable solution, but does it work?, or is there some kinda specific grease made for guns... i dont know i use oil, why im asking.
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I used this for a while on my Kimber but went back to just a light film of gun oil because I found it not neccessary with the great slide/frame fit. It might be useful for you tho. Got it at Reliable Guns in vancouver but likely available at other gun shops.

Mike

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rollie100 said:
i accually brought that up in sig forum, so far all they've done is shot down the idea... dont understand why, any bit of a steel rail option is better than freakin aluminum, IMHO.
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Norinco clones have been known to crack frames despite the steel insert.
 
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