Hi everyone. I shoot handgun for more than 1 year already but I did not shoot very often. Maybe once or twice a month. And My accuracy is only so so. Currently I am thinking about to take the Black Badge course in Feb so my local gun club will allow me to use a holster in the range if I pass the course. But the thing is that I am worry about whether my skill is sufficient enough to pass the course. Can any one tell me what is the difficult part of the course, so I can practice it in my club for the next few weeks? I know a lot of action involve movement that is not allowed in my club, but I still would like to know how far am I suppose to shoot, and how quickly do I need to shoot also. I am pretty bad when shooting beyond maybe 15 meters and I am really sucks in rapid fire. So any help is really appreciated. I am not interested in wining any matches. Just let me pass is good enough to me. Thanks.
Worry about taking the Black Badge course
- Thread starter proflui
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Dont worry about speed. If you can aim and hit a4 paper from 10 meters, you are good to go.
Maybe next time you are at the club, ask one of the experienced shooters about stance and grip, this stuff makes a huge difference and hard to fix if you acquire bad habbits. There is plenty of resources on internet about proper handgun grip. For example google or look on youtube videos of Saul Kirch or Tod Jarred talking about grip.
Maybe next time you are at the club, ask one of the experienced shooters about stance and grip, this stuff makes a huge difference and hard to fix if you acquire bad habbits. There is plenty of resources on internet about proper handgun grip. For example google or look on youtube videos of Saul Kirch or Tod Jarred talking about grip.
The thing about the course is that most shooters can shoot accurately enough, but add a small amount of pressure or stress and those skills can become challenged. Just aim and press the trigger to get as many good hits as u can!
- Location
- Toronto,Ontario
This is what you'll need to completed in the course:
The Accuracy requirements for all strings are: 50% A's with All shots on target. C's or better.
My BB Instructor are harsh on this, if not enough A's[Even touching the A's line is not acceptable], repeat again.
1. Initial Classroom Lecture;
2. Load and Unload(with Dummy ammo);
3. Draw, 1 shot, 6 times, 10 Meters;
4. Draw, 1 shot, 6 times, 15 Meters;
5. Draw, 1 shot, 2 sec. 6 times, 7 Meters;
6. Draw, 2 shots, 2 sec. 6 times, 7 Meters;
7. Draw, 2 shots, 3 sec. 6 times, 15 Meters;
8. Draw, 2 shots, reload, 2 shots, 7 sec. 3 times, 10 Meters
9. Draw, 1+1 shots, reload, 1+1 shots, 2 targets, 7 sec. 3 times, 10 Meters
10.Turn 180 degrees, draw, 2+2+2 shots, reload, 2+2+2 shots, 3 Targets,12sec. 15 Meters;
11. Draw, 2 shots, move 2 shots, move 2 shots, 2 targets, 3 shooting position
12. Draw, 2 shots, move & reload, 2 shots, move & reload, 2 shots, 2 targets
13. Strong Hand: Draw, 2 shots, 3 sec.3 times, 10 meters;
14. Weak Hand: Draw strong hand, change to weak hand, 2 shots, 5 sec. 3times, 10 meters;
15. Kneeling: Draw and kneel, 1 shot, 6 times, 20 meters;
16. Prone: Draw and go prone, 1 shot, 6 times, 20 meters;
17. Barricade: Right side, draw, 1 shot, 6 times, repeat 6 times on left. 15Meters;
18. Open Book Exam: Pass Mark
19. IPSC Ontario Practical Pistol Match must be successfully completed to qualify for Permanant Black Badge. (You'll need to register for a Ontario Match, completed it safely without disqualify)
The Accuracy requirements for all strings are: 50% A's with All shots on target. C's or better.
My BB Instructor are harsh on this, if not enough A's[Even touching the A's line is not acceptable], repeat again.
1. Initial Classroom Lecture;
2. Load and Unload(with Dummy ammo);
3. Draw, 1 shot, 6 times, 10 Meters;
4. Draw, 1 shot, 6 times, 15 Meters;
5. Draw, 1 shot, 2 sec. 6 times, 7 Meters;
6. Draw, 2 shots, 2 sec. 6 times, 7 Meters;
7. Draw, 2 shots, 3 sec. 6 times, 15 Meters;
8. Draw, 2 shots, reload, 2 shots, 7 sec. 3 times, 10 Meters
9. Draw, 1+1 shots, reload, 1+1 shots, 2 targets, 7 sec. 3 times, 10 Meters
10.Turn 180 degrees, draw, 2+2+2 shots, reload, 2+2+2 shots, 3 Targets,12sec. 15 Meters;
11. Draw, 2 shots, move 2 shots, move 2 shots, 2 targets, 3 shooting position
12. Draw, 2 shots, move & reload, 2 shots, move & reload, 2 shots, 2 targets
13. Strong Hand: Draw, 2 shots, 3 sec.3 times, 10 meters;
14. Weak Hand: Draw strong hand, change to weak hand, 2 shots, 5 sec. 3times, 10 meters;
15. Kneeling: Draw and kneel, 1 shot, 6 times, 20 meters;
16. Prone: Draw and go prone, 1 shot, 6 times, 20 meters;
17. Barricade: Right side, draw, 1 shot, 6 times, repeat 6 times on left. 15Meters;
18. Open Book Exam: Pass Mark
19. IPSC Ontario Practical Pistol Match must be successfully completed to qualify for Permanant Black Badge. (You'll need to register for a Ontario Match, completed it safely without disqualify)
- Location
- The Hammer, ON
My advice:
Accuracy is key. Work on the pistol fundamentals before the course. Pay attention to stance, grip, trigger control, sight picture. If you can get your groups tighter when on the bullseye line, then you are all that much better. Work on getting a high grip to practice recoil control (important for followup shots). Of course pay attention to being safe at all times on the range.
Speed will come, but speed means nothing without accuracy. As you shoot under the pressure of a time limit, your groups WILL open up. By being fairly accurate, you will limit the amount your groups open up.
Shoot lots and shoot often. The shooting excercises last for 2 days, 8 hours each. You will be tired, up to that point you probably never shot that much before. Ever. Fatigue plays a factor, espically at the end of the first day on "El Prez" (excercise #10 above).
Good luck.
Accuracy is key. Work on the pistol fundamentals before the course. Pay attention to stance, grip, trigger control, sight picture. If you can get your groups tighter when on the bullseye line, then you are all that much better. Work on getting a high grip to practice recoil control (important for followup shots). Of course pay attention to being safe at all times on the range.
Speed will come, but speed means nothing without accuracy. As you shoot under the pressure of a time limit, your groups WILL open up. By being fairly accurate, you will limit the amount your groups open up.
Shoot lots and shoot often. The shooting excercises last for 2 days, 8 hours each. You will be tired, up to that point you probably never shot that much before. Ever. Fatigue plays a factor, espically at the end of the first day on "El Prez" (excercise #10 above).
Good luck.
okay, relax.
ipsc is about safety, after you got that then speed will come, accuracy is not a must for the course but you should be able to land 9/10 rounds on a 8 x 11 sheet of paper at 20 m on your own time. to complete the course you must complete a ipsc level 2 match with no DQ.
don't worry about shooting and moving, just remember to keep the finger off the trigger when moving and reloading.
the instructor will most likely correct any bad habits pretty quickly.
there not there to hang you, there there to accept you into our sport safely and with the knowledge to complete a match safely. skill and speed will come with more shooting and meeting other shooters.
good luck
-pats
ipsc is about safety, after you got that then speed will come, accuracy is not a must for the course but you should be able to land 9/10 rounds on a 8 x 11 sheet of paper at 20 m on your own time. to complete the course you must complete a ipsc level 2 match with no DQ.
don't worry about shooting and moving, just remember to keep the finger off the trigger when moving and reloading.
the instructor will most likely correct any bad habits pretty quickly.
there not there to hang you, there there to accept you into our sport safely and with the knowledge to complete a match safely. skill and speed will come with more shooting and meeting other shooters.
good luck
-pats
Mixed messages here, im doing the course in Alberta Jan 22 and 23. Some of you make it seem hard, others say its a breeze wtf! I just wanted to do the course to learn more about shooting pistols, i didnt think i had to be an expert before hand or anything. I thought you could take the course with little or no experience. Ya know kinda like taking a first aid course for the first time.
its not a course about shooting pistols, its a course about ipsc, and the rules and ways to shoot it safely, yes you will learn to shoot your pistol, and shoot it safely, but it is a course that will allow you to shoot your pistol in a ipsc competion, where you will learn more about shooting your pistol, and shooting it safely, then accuratly and safely, then fast and accuratly and safely.
its not a scary course, its a very informative course.
Good to know.
put it this way, i have people that have taken the course and have never fired a pistol before. they are the easiest to train because i don't have to break their bad habits. it is guys like you that have started shooting with no instructions and you probably have a bunch of bad habits, starting with grip and stance and i have to take hours to correct this. it is always nice to watch once you get through to a shooter this is what to do and you see his 12 inch group shrink down to 4 inches. The failure rate on a black badge course is very low and i like to think that it is the skills of the instructors not the ease of the course.
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Ok Proflui
I am the Instructor for the BB course in Feb at WSSC, and you will be fine, dont lissen to half the guys on here, just pratice to just get use to your gun and relaxed when shooting it, we will help you within the course to safe and become a better shooter.
Glock 2010 who are you PM me because I dont know where you get your info from but it is wrong and you could scare this guy away from shooting IPSC, and if you know the rules in IPSC touching the line of the A zone scores as a A.
Proflui if you want any info with regards the BB course dont hesitate to PM me and I will help you out.
I am the Instructor for the BB course in Feb at WSSC, and you will be fine, dont lissen to half the guys on here, just pratice to just get use to your gun and relaxed when shooting it, we will help you within the course to safe and become a better shooter.
Glock 2010 who are you PM me because I dont know where you get your info from but it is wrong and you could scare this guy away from shooting IPSC, and if you know the rules in IPSC touching the line of the A zone scores as a A.
Proflui if you want any info with regards the BB course dont hesitate to PM me and I will help you out.
Accuracy???Come on the Black Badge is about safety and the rules of IPSC. The latter we did the test at home looking up the answers in the rule book and quoting the page number. I didn't learn much about the rules but sure know how to find them in the rule book. The shooting part is about shooting safely.
What is with the 8 x 11 paper at 20 yards?
limeie thanks for posting what you did. I was beginning to think I took the wrong course to get my Black Badge. IPSC is about shooting a handgun safely in a competitive environment while having a great deal of fun while doing it.
proflui I don't know limiei from Adam but if he is your instructor I am willing to bet you are going to enjoy the course, likely learn a lot and do well. Good luck and enjoy your IPSC experience.
Take Care
Bob
What is with the 8 x 11 paper at 20 yards?
limeie thanks for posting what you did. I was beginning to think I took the wrong course to get my Black Badge. IPSC is about shooting a handgun safely in a competitive environment while having a great deal of fun while doing it.
proflui I don't know limiei from Adam but if he is your instructor I am willing to bet you are going to enjoy the course, likely learn a lot and do well. Good luck and enjoy your IPSC experience.
Take Care
Bob
As is almost always the case, the anticipation of a thing is far worse than the thing itself. Just relax and take the course with no preconceived notions. You'll be fine and later you will wonder what all the fuss was about.
When I took my BB course, I had not shot more than 200 rounds through ANY firearms at all. I don't think I was able to hit a target at 20 yards at all, but I was able to hit about 50% A's at 7 yards!
Being so inexperienced, though, I really focused on the safety aspect of the game, which I think helped me in the long run.
Being so inexperienced, though, I really focused on the safety aspect of the game, which I think helped me in the long run.
