Worry about taking the Black Badge course

http://www.ipsc-ont.org/docs/bbpolicy2010.pdf
Black Badge Training Program - Policies & Procedures

Thanks. Should be fixed now.

It used to show what exercise will be done at the course. I was blamed that my info is out of date but they are not putting up an updated one...:confused:

If you want to contact "them", the email address is right on the front page of the IPSC Ontario web site.
 
Might be safer so people are not trying to make the times without the instruction while they are "practicing" for the course.
Work on your fundamentals (sight picture, trigger prep and grip)and if you have any questions please ask the instructor who is teaching your course for some advice in advance of the course or send me an email.
 
Might be safer so people are not trying to make the times without the instruction while they are "practicing" for the course.
Work on your fundamentals (sight picture, trigger prep and grip)and if you have any questions please ask the instructor who is teaching your course for some advice in advance of the course or send me an email.

Right! Like you would know. :rolleyes: ;)
 
Yeah, we'll leave the course sheet off the page, the students will find our soon enough what is expected of them...
 
personally i would not want students practising the required drills ahead of time. bad habits for starters plus the chances of AD's. my two cents YMMV.
 
When i took my BB, the instructor stressed he would not take students who could not at their own pace, put a magazine onto an 8"x11" sheet of paper at 20 yards.

At one point in time, I was the club rep for my range and the poor slob tasked with trying to get an ever increasing list of members interested in taking the BB on a course.

Getting range time was a problem, as closing the one range for a weekend cramped a lot of members free time. I was hard pressed to manage to get a weekend every 4-6 weeks. The courses were always full. It seemed that for every 9 students I'd cross off the list, another 6 would sign up. Over a year I think I managed to reduce the list from 60 names to less than 45.:rolleyes:

The first 6 courses went off relatively well. People showed up with guns that they had actually shot, and were for the most part hitting the target.

And then we had the course from hell. We had an instructor who to be kind, was lacking in the refined teaching ability of his peers. We had a full class, and 5 of the 10 students showed up with guns they bought that month. At least one had never fired a pistol, having done all his shooting with a revolver. A few of them were using Sig 228's or Beretta 92's, and had never tried to shoot them double action.

A normal first day usually sees all the students having mastered the El Pres, and possibly needing a quick run through some of the earlier drills to catch up on a missed time or missed score.

On this course, three of the students got to 4pm with almost none of the drills signed off. I still recall checking thier targets after a late in the day revisiting of the 2 shot in 3 seconds at 15 yards. The bright light of the group had 5 hits out of 12 on the paper, and nothing else even touching the non scoring border.d:h:d:h:d:h:

The instructor and I confered, and we pulled the guys aside. We told them there was no point in continuing until they took time to practice and get thier shots on paper. I was available 2 nights a week to coach or observe, and we'd put them on the next course when they mastered the gun and could hit the target.

After that course, I had anyone wanting on the BB shoot at a 12 inch square target at 20 yards with 20 rounds, 10 double action if they were using a Sig or Beretta, etc.
 
HOWDY; I would pratice shooting bullseys on paper and take the course. It will teach you a lot and pass or fail be a safer ,better gun handler when its over.
 
would you not let them shoot standard minor...SA first shot?

If they had a gun with a safety that worked in single action, I'm sure the instructor would have been fine with that. Having a cocked Sig or Beretta in the holster, probably not.
 
I would practice shooting bullseyes on paper and take the course.

This is what I'm doing currently.

I'm trying to get comfortable with a new firearm with the aim of accomplishing smooth trigger control, good sight picture etc ... I'm just trying to settle into the new gun with no pressure, time constraints or anything. No holster, no drawing, no drills etc .....

What would be considered "good" groupings for accuracy at 7, 10, 15 and 20 Meters?
 
If you can keep them all on a regular size piece of paper (8.5X11)at 7, 10 and 15 with both strong and weakhand and freestyle shooting you are going to be ok.:)
Just keep working on the trigger press and try using plugs and a headset it will help, for sure.
 
If you can keep them all on a regular size piece of paper (8.5X11)at 7, 10 and 15 with both strong and weakhand and freestyle shooting you are going to be ok.:)
Just keep working on the trigger press and try using plugs and a headset it will help, for sure.

Just to clarify when you say strong and weakhand you do mean that I am to pracitice firing my gun with one hand at 7, 10 and 15 yrds? I always practice using both hands and I am alright out to 10 yards but still pretty green. I never thought that I would need to know how single handed ? I guess that was dumb of me.

But you guys are freaking me out about this black badge course. I think I will just practice with my gun and think a little more about whether I want to do this or not.:(
 
Jacky,
Don't read to much into the black badge course and don't feel that you need all kinds of experience before you go shoot IPSC. The people that run the IPSC club up there in K'Town are awesome and will guide you thru the process. Just go shoot and have fun,it will be the most fun you had with your clothes on. PM me if I can answer any questions for you.
 
I am reading Brian Eno's book "Practical Shooting" and IPSC looks like a pile of fun. This Eno's guy just seems unreal in his philosphy and how he looks at shooting in general.

Even simple things like grip and stance are really well explained in the book.

I emailed the black badge buy here in Kelowna to ask a few questions but if I need some more I will PM you.
 
This is what I'm doing currently.

I'm trying to get comfortable with a new firearm with the aim of accomplishing smooth trigger control, good sight picture etc ... I'm just trying to settle into the new gun with no pressure, time constraints or anything. No holster, no drawing, no drills etc .....

What would be considered "good" groupings for accuracy at 7, 10, 15 and 20 Meters?

Have you had anyone show you proper grip? how about that you should try and shot with both eyes open. the hardest thing in a Black Badge course for me as an instructor is having to spend hours breaking bad habits that students have picked up by not having any instructions besides the latest shot em up flick on the big screen. a good grip is the foundation that shooting is built on.
 
I am reading Brian Eno's book "Practical Shooting" and IPSC looks like a pile of fun. This Eno's guy just seems unreal in his philosphy and how he looks at shooting in general.

Even simple things like grip and stance are really well explained in the book.

I emailed the black badge buy here in Kelowna to ask a few questions but if I need some more I will PM you.

that is an excellent book....kudos for reading it. IPSC is a pile of fun. I have had interests in different sports over the years....and the only one I had the interest to stick with is IPSC.
 
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