WORST CASE SCENARIO - buyback is implemented

Desjard said:
I'll probably take an angle grinder and zip disc to my receivers before I hand them over. I don't need the $500 cheque they will give me for my combined rifles. Screw em.
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A saw will be better for you, your grinder and anyones safety in the general vicinity than a grinder /zip disc on aluminum. At high speed, It will load, grab, jam, and rip the disc apart faster than you can say F***. Don`t ask how i know.. There may be discs rated for aluminium, but I don’t know of any
 
Innavedaw said:
Can we stop using the term grandfathering please. Actual “grandfathering” requires that anyone who owned the guns prior to May 1 would still be able to own and use them as always...This bastardization of the term grandfathering just furthers the gun control agenda and shouldn’t be tolerated, much less adopted by gun owners.


grand·fa·ther
/ˈɡran(d)ˌfäT͟Hər/

verb : grandfathering
exempt (someone or something) from a new law or regulation.
"smokers who worked here before the ban have been grandfathered"
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Not quite the case when it comes to Canadian firearm law. For instance, other than under 12.6, owners of the other 12(x) classes were "grandfathered" into ownership, but then subsequently denied the ability to use them. There are plenty of FAL's and such around that haven't fired a shot in 25 years.
My guess would be any new grandfathering will look very much the same as it did back in the '90s.
 
They will not do anything, as i have said before we all have safe queens forever, IBM will do their little study, get paid #### load of money and then tell Turdo to just leave them as safe queens.

The gov will not buy back, even though its our money they would use, that money is better spent on corruption which directly benefits them.
 
If your registration certificates are no longer valid, are the reporting requirements attached to it unnecessary?
 
Suther said:
You think cops are going to try and steal prohibited firearms to put in their own private collection? Why? So they can live in constant fear of losing their job and going to jail just to put a hunk of metal they can't use in their collection?
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dont you know cop got a different set of rules ? so many time they are catch doing bad thing the only thing they get is suspended with pay . there only rules for us little slave of the system ...
 
Wolf@TS said:
Not quite the case when it comes to Canadian firearm law. For instance, other than under 12.6, owners of the other 12(x) classes were "grandfathered" into ownership, but then subsequently denied the ability to use them. There are plenty of FAL's and such around that haven't fired a shot in 25 years.
My guess would be any new grandfathering will look very much the same as it did back in the '90s.
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Missed my point completely...Don’t accept the Canadian firearms program definition...call it what it is.
 
Innavedaw said:
Missed my point completely...Don’t accept the Canadian firearms program definition...call it what it is.
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No, I totally get what you're saying.. just that the term has only ever reflected the ownership part, but not the actual use of for decades.
That was quashed by the CFO's denying ATT's for range use.
Trust me, as a 12(X) holder I get it... just saying I don't see any "compensation" coming our way. Whether under "grandfathering" or "amnesty" or whatever... just more safe queens until owners give up, pass away, or.. we have a change of government in our favor.
Cheers :cheers:
 
So a basic consensus is to take apart your black rifle and reclassify it to the RCMP such that in their records all you have in possession is a receiver. In the legal sense that would be the best option.

Question, if I have a assembled full rifle and then the govt asks to turn them in and I just give them a receiver, can I do that?
In my mind, if they appreciated my rifle buy back to revive $1000 and I only give them the illegal part of it, technically do I make money? Lol
 
This likely isn't the place but what worries me is that everyone is discussing how they're going to turn in their personal property to a socialist government. What's happened to mass non-compliance? Burying them and doing your time. You too could further your education with 3 squares a day at the expense of future taxpayers. You even get to vote, but that's already a useless exercise.
 
M4_556 said:
So a basic consensus is to take apart your black rifle and reclassify it to the RCMP such that in their records all you have in possession is a receiver. In the legal sense that would be the best option.

Question, if I have a assembled full rifle and then the govt asks to turn them in and I just give them a receiver, can I do that?
In my mind, if they appreciated my rifle buy back to revive $1000 and I only give them the illegal part of it, technically do I make money? Lol
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I don't even think you can anymore can you?
 
squidxm said:
This, pennies on the dollar likely in the form of a tax rebate.
I thought I was planning ahead by buying 20+ proprietary mags for my cz scorpion. Then there’s aftermarket trigger, springs, safety, grip, charging handle etc..
The little bit of consolation is that some AR parts and mags can be used in other platforms, but between parts and accessories I’m already out thousands. That’s without even factoring in the thousands lost for the firearms themselves.
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I’ll keep my safequeened ARs before I accept my own tax dollars paying for the theft of my property.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I think the amnesty will just keep getting extended indefinitely.
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If the amnesty keeps getting kicked down the road, the Liberals keep having political hay. They're only after us to scapegoating gun owners and manipulate GTA flake's fear into votes. Actually removing these guns would be killing a proverbial goose that lays golden eggs.
 
Or they could dish out more then fair market value... that will encourage more compliance, less lawsuits etc.etc.

This is the Liberal gov after all, their not afraid to shell out tax payer dollars to fulfill their wet dream policies.
 
Just a comment on the use of the "buy back" phrase.

Many others have commented in the past on other threads that it is essentially confiscation.

There would be very few willing sellers.

It was not purchased from the government so they cannot "buy it back".

Does anyone else agree that a better description of the process would be "confiscation".

To me that is a better description of the process that may or may not come to pass.

Are we hurting ourselves by continuing to use a somewhat more politically correct but inaccurate term?

Thoughts??
 
slarsen47 said:
Just a comment on the use of the "buy back" phrase.

Many others have commented in the past on other threads that it is essentially confiscation.

There would be very few willing sellers.

It was not purchased from the government so they cannot "buy it back".

Does anyone else agree that a better description of the process would be "confiscation".

To me that is a better description of the process that may or may not come to pass.

Are we hurting ourselves by continuing to use a somewhat more politically correct but inaccurate term?

Thoughts??
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Obviously in reality its confiscation with compensation...

But the politicians are all calling it a "buy back" and advertising it as a buy back so thats the term we have to address it by regardless.

OIC is technically a " big steaming pile of Horse sh!t " but yet we all still refer to it as OIC haha
 
infideleggwelder said:
A saw will be better for you, your grinder and anyones safety in the general vicinity than a grinder /zip disc on aluminum. At high speed, It will load, grab, jam, and rip the disc apart faster than you can say F***. Don`t ask how i know.. There may be discs rated for aluminium, but I don’t know of any
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There are aluminum specific cutting wheels and they work great. Not that I could bring myself to use one on a firearm.
 
Murray 3-D said:
Or they could dish out more then fair market value... that will encourage more compliance, less lawsuits etc.etc.

This is the Liberal gov after all, their not afraid to shell out tax payer dollars to fulfill their wet dream policies.
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Well the Fraser Institute has suggested that the cost of a confiscation will be between $1.64 - 4.92 Billion based on some reasonable assumptions (here is a link)

However recently the CCFR has highlighted that the government may in fact choose to prohibit the use but not ownership of the firearms and increase storage requirements. This in turn would potentially pass the cost on to the legal gun owner. Now instead of the government having to justify, organise and pay for the confiscation of your firearm they can legally require you to for example buy a gun cabinet, have it installed and then still never use your firearm. This may be conducted in line with a paid for confiscation, but obviously they would assume they have to pay for a lower number of firearms as they can assume many will keep their firearms (Here is a link)
 
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