WORST CASE SCENARIO - buyback is implemented

Just keep in mind, that the whole point of "administratively expiring" your restricted rifles' certificates was to make them ineligible for grandfathering.

My guess, if Libs truly care about removing now prohibited NRs from circulation they would offer good money as compensation. There are enough restricted rifles to set up a good photo session.

4 Billions is chump's change for them after spending 500 last year and budgeting another 700 for 2021 for whatever.

The main point, if you keep your NRs, you can't use them, and Libs know that there was no public safety threat from licensed owners to begin with.
 
Bratwurst said:
Well the Fraser Institute has suggested that the cost of a confiscation will be between $1.64 - 4.92 Billion based on some reasonable assumptions (here is a link)

However recently the CCFR has highlighted that the government may in fact choose to prohibit the use but not ownership of the firearms and increase storage requirements. This in turn would potentially pass the cost on to the legal gun owner. Now instead of the government having to justify, organise and pay for the confiscation of your firearm they can legally require you to for example buy a gun cabinet, have it installed and then still never use your firearm. This may be conducted in line with a paid for confiscation, but obviously they would assume they have to pay for a lower number of firearms as they can assume many will keep their firearms (Here is a link)
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They certainly could fall back to such a thing... but then they could be even more easily criticized for technically not removing these "military grade assault rifles" from the hands of civilians. Anti gun groups like the Polytectnic one would be enraged to hear that none of the Mini 14s or AR 15s are going to the melt pot.
 
Jäger said:
Like I said it would cut them off at the tap. Ending new imports and their proliferation....blah blah blah about "alarming" changes to Cdn gun culture, etc. It would not be difficult to spin it as a win for what they set out to do while also claiming they were treating people who did nothing wrong fairly.

Quibbling about hypocrisy and ideological inconsistencies is a major hurdle for the right accomplishing anything in the political and cultural spheres. The left seems to understand this far better, and carves out wins wherever and whenever they can.
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they could just have the judge side with us and claim they tried... then they could focus their time on the real issue, illegal guns.
 
Murray 3-D said:
They certainly could fall back to such a thing... but then they could be even more easily criticized for technically not removing these "military grade assault rifles" from the hands of civilians. Anti gun groups like the Polytectnic one would be enraged to hear that none of the Mini 14s or AR 15s are going to the melt pot.
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Interesting point Murray. Which raises an ironic point. Who else are the anti-gun groups going to hitch their wagon to? The Liberals are the only anti-gun party who have a chance of forming government. So for them, it's the Liberals or nothing. The irony is a similar situation for us. The only "pro-gun" party for us with a chance of forming government is the CPC. For us, it's the CPC or nothing.
 
dpo2o said:
Interesting point Murray. Which raises an ironic point. Who else are the anti-gun groups going to hitch their wagon to? The Liberals are the only anti-gun party who have a chance of forming government. So for them, it's the Liberals or nothing. The irony is a similar situation for us. The only "pro-gun" party for us with a chance of forming government is the CPC. For us, it's the CPC or nothing.
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Yes but its bad PR for the Liberal party as a whole. The Anti gun lobbys can make a lot of noise. Stating what the Liberals did was not enough, and then on top of that u got the opposition also complaining that the Liberals gun policy was a huge waste... attacks from both fronts. Half of which could be avoided by chucking a few extra Billion at a " buyback " program.
 
Scotty454 said:
Deactivating a firearm requires a lot more than just disassembling it. So no, that is not an option. You could pay to have it "properly" deactivated, but the whole point of that is that it would render it completely and permanently unusable. But the RCMP is not just going to take your word for it, you have to have it verified as deactivated, as far as I know.
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That's fair, I suppose: increasingly many don't take the RCMP Firearm Lab's word for anything, either... :canadaFlag:
 
Murray 3-D said:
Yes but its bad PR for the Liberal party as a whole. The Anti gun lobbys can make a lot of noise. Stating what the Liberals did was not enough, and then on top of that u got the opposition also complaining that the Liberals gun policy was a huge waste... attacks from both fronts. Half of which could be avoided by chucking a few extra Billion at a " buyback " program.
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Yes and they're not shy about throwing taxpayers' money around.
 
I would say "worst case scenario" is this whole thing stays stuck in limbo for years. At least if they try a "buy back" the ####e will hit the fan and get this mess over with.
 
IMO It being stuck in limbo is good thing cus it gives the Conservatives a better chance to reverse it. Im afraid that once the confiscation happens. The damage will be considered done, and the Conservatives wont see much point in making said firearms available ever available again.
 
Murray 3-D said:
IMO It being stuck in limbo is good thing cus it gives the Conservatives a better chance to reverse it. Im afraid that once the confiscation happens. The damage will be considered done, and the Conservatives wont see much point in making said firearms available ever available again.
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Im assuming a buy back woulnt be possible with my thinking. After many "incidents" I would expect it to be shutdown.
 
nowarningshot said:
I've never bought anything from the government. What then could I have for them to "buyback"?
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Also remember they're buying it back with your own hard earned money that you cough up as taxes. So buying back something that was never theirs with money that isn't theirs. I recommend changing the term "buyback" to "assf*cking" cause that's what it is.
 
ojo de aguila said:
This likely isn't the place but what worries me is that everyone is discussing how they're going to turn in their personal property to a socialist government. What's happened to mass non-compliance? Burying them and doing your time. You too could further your education with 3 squares a day at the expense of future taxpayers. You even get to vote, but that's already a useless exercise.
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the issue with that is you'll likely lose your firearms license if you are sent to jail, and never be able to shoot your non-prohibited guns again either. big decision
 
Also, can we talk about that absolute irony of our prime minister saying "you don't need an AR to hunt" even though they're restricted....only to have his own government conservation officers order a bunch of AR-10's?

https://www.yukon-news.com/news/env...se-of-ar-10-rifles-for-conservation-officers/

“On the one hand, you have the prime minister and Yukon’s Liberal Member of Parliament saying that these types of guns have no use in Canada and they’re only meant for killing people. On the other hand, you have the Yukon Liberal government purchasing 20 of these AR rifles saying that they’re necessary to deal with human-wildlife conflict,” Hassard said.

“Many Yukoners could easily find themselves in exactly the same scenario of human-wildlife conflict that the government is justifying as the reason that these guns are necessary for employees at the Department of Environment,” he said.
 
Fuzzy Wool Hat said:
the issue with that is you'll likely lose your firearms license if you are sent to jail, and never be able to shoot your non-prohibited guns again either. big decision
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I thought if you went to jail you got the special license that allows you possess and carry any firearm? Y'know, like those gangbangers have in the city?
 
The kind of licence that allows you to have things you could not get with your PAL. And they can't revoke it, there was a dude under 5 prohibitions and still his special licence got him new gun.
 
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