Worst rifle you ever bought?

I have owned 3 ruger minis, a 14 in stainless that I used for predator control and shot many critters with it, a pair of 582's mini 30s that have performed very well. I bought one on this forum that "would not shoot worth a Dam! " full disclosure. Owner tried a few different brands of ammo, hated it. I bought it cheap, as a project, loaded it with PPU RN SP ammo and it shot just fine cycled good. I still have that one. It is not the first rifle that I have owned that is ammo fussy, definitely not junk. Love the minis, not long range target guns but awesome killin tools.

I knew one guy that had a good one, that is why I bought mine; since that time I have met a bunch of guys in real life who's guns shot like mine. Preadator/pest control... most will patern about this good; spray em with lead... once the 30 round clips were gone, they were pretty much useless for coyote and fox:

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mine was Remington 597 in 22 WMR, standard barrel and iron sights (it is a rimfire, I realize, but worst rifle I ever bought). I scoped it. It fed and ejected reliably but:
- rear sight fell off within the first 3 magazines fired (as I played with it, it is made of such a soft metal I could bend it with my fingers)
- within next 3 magazines, the charging handle fell off, stuck it back in, it wouldn't hold, kept flying out with each shot.
- Within the final 5 magazines, the horrendous recoil (LOL!) ripped off the installed base along with the scope, stripping the threads clean as it came off.
So, it was literally falling apart with mild vibrations of the recoil.
Cheap soft metal, I suppose even the receiver is soft metal. The base screws were torqued properly, just soft metal threads wouldn't hold. Shall never buy Remington again. I like the old school, old guns made of proper materials now. Don't care for the new plastiky guns companies are making now and cheaping out on material quality.

Sold it for parts with full disclosure.

Cheers!
 
I didn't own this rifle but I sighted one in for a friend. A Winchester model 88. We mounted the scope and proceeded to try and sight it in. I couldn't believe how hard a .308 could kick. The next day I thought I'd done permanent damage to my shoulder. The bruise it left on my shoulder was unbelievable. I have pictures of it on my computer.
 
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Worst 1 ever was a CZ 455 varmint 22WMR
Stock in-letting was so bad the trigger stood out the side of the trigger guard... just slightly but still stood out.
1 barrel screw was completely loose and the other broke 2 Allen keys to loosen it.
After applying proper torque to everything along with bedding the action, the best group I could get with many different brands of ammo was 3" @ 100 yds.
Took a band saw to it, now it rests in about 20 pieces, except for the action. I kept it to remind me how high the boltlift is along with the roughness of the action... like pulling a canoe over gravel.
 
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Zastava M85 in 7.62x39...bought 2 when they went on sale for $375 each, one with irons, one without. Shot the one without irons for a bit, wasn't too bad, no issues really, traded it for something.
Then got around to the one with irons... wouldn't extract brass cases, accuracy was terrible, recoil lug in stock broke off, action binds and is rough as hell, fixed everything I can and it still doesn't shoot for ####.
 
Im really liking this thread. Lol. A lot of good stories (or bad stories) but entertaining non the less. My worst rifle would have to be a savage axis in 30-06.

Now I've had a few axis's so far. Never bought one, always got them on trades or such. Never paid for one, now that I think of it. I had one in 22-250 that I actualy really liked.

Now back to the 30-06. I got this one on trade for some scrap steel on the farm. Good trade, as I wanted the steel gone. The rifle shot ok, about 1.5 - 2" using federal blue box. The issue was that the bolt locked up on me while hunting with a live round in the chamber. I ended up just shooting it off into a dirt berm but the bolt still locked up. safety issue is what makes it 'my worse gun.' I took it back to shop, removed the stock and trigger group and it cycled fine. Shot a few rounds after and it worked fine. Still didnt trust it tho.

Ive had finicky guns that required work and or tweeking. I like a challenge and figuring out how to turn a turd rifle into a shooter.
 
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I was really not aware of the Mini 14's lack of accuracy. I have never owned one nor have I shot one, but I understand they are very popular. Why?

Apparently some are ok but the one I had was not, tried several loads and no luck, sold it and bought an AR15... no comparison as far as accuracy.
 
Well with 230+ posts in this thread I decided to tally them up by manufacturer. I ignored posts that were not specific to a particular firearm, or specifically stated that the gun was old or worn out, or used recoil as a reason. I think recoil sensitivity varies from person to person. I also used only one per thread unless there were specific references to an obvious factory default. I suppose some might have different criteria.

So here are the "winners". The sample size was a total of 125, large enough to be statistically significant, IMO.

First place was a tie at 23 between Remington and Ruger.
Second was Savage at 15.
Third was Norinco at 12.
Next was a tie between Zastava, Marlin, and Chiappa at 5
Next were Kimber and Tikka at 4.

The remainder had three or less.
Of the milsurps there were 3 Mosins and 2 SKS, a couple of Lee Enfields.

Interesting is that a significant number of the Rugers were Mini-14's. Without these Ruger would look much better.
Also interesting is that 3 or 4 of the Marlins were "Remlins".
Most of the Remingtons cited were of recent manufacture. Perhaps that has something to do with their bankruptcy filing.
Of the big names Weatherby, Browning and Winchester came out a little better.
I didn't add my own worst, which was a Chiappa M1-9. If I added mine Chiappa would have pulled into 4th place.
Disclaimer: I like pre 1990 Remington 700's and most Ruger 77's, but my favourite rifles are Model 70's. Probably if this was compiled in the early post '64 era there would be some representation of them here.
 
I still miss it a bit, bit yeah a brand new mini 14 stainless bought in 2010 for $699. Accuracy for a mini was good, better then the same mink my dad bought at the same time. Only problem after 59 some rounds I started having ftf every 4-10 rounds . A full cleaning would fix tge problem for 40-50 round then back to ftf after. Had zero support from Ruger, I was sent from ruger to the canadian supplier to the dealer to the supplier and back and fort. Swapping bolts with my dads mini would fix the problem but no one was willing to help me. Si I put a x on ruger for me.

Btw my dad never had a failure with is mini and is forbidden by me to sell it! I laid my claim on it ;)
 
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I still miss it a bit, bit yeah a brand new mini 14 stainless bought in 2019 for $699. Accuracy for a mini was good, better then the same mink my dad bought at the same time. Only problem after 59 some rounds I started having ftf every 4-10 rounds . A full cleaning would fix tge problem for 40-50 round then back to ftf after. Had zero support from Ruger, I was sent from ruger to the canadian supplier to the dealer to the supplier and back and fort. Swapping bolts with my dads mini would fix the problem but no one was willing to help me. Si I put a x on ruger for me.

Btw my dad never had a failure with is mini and is forbidden by me to sell it! I laid my claim on it ;)

So man from the future, what else has changed? Please tell me the libs sent in power anymore!?!? I'm glad to see firearms are cheaper with brand new minis selling cor $699
 
Well with 230+ posts in this thread I decided to tally them up by manufacturer. I ignored posts that were not specific to a particular firearm, or specifically stated that the gun was old or worn out, or used recoil as a reason. I think recoil sensitivity varies from person to person. I also used only one per thread unless there were specific references to an obvious factory default. I suppose some might have different criteria.

So here are the "winners". The sample size was a total of 125, large enough to be statistically significant, IMO.

First place was a tie at 23 between Remington and Ruger.
Second was Savage at 15.
Third was Norinco at 12.
Next was a tie between Zastava, Marlin, and Chiappa at 5
Next were Kimber and Tikka at 4.

The remainder had three or less.
Of the milsurps there were 3 Mosins and 2 SKS, a couple of Lee Enfields.

Interesting is that a significant number of the Rugers were Mini-14's. Without these Ruger would look much better.
Also interesting is that 3 or 4 of the Marlins were "Remlins".
Most of the Remingtons cited were of recent manufacture. Perhaps that has something to do with their bankruptcy filing.
Of the big names Weatherby, Browning and Winchester came out a little better.
I didn't add my own worst, which was a Chiappa M1-9. If I added mine Chiappa would have pulled into 4th place.
Disclaimer: I like pre 1990 Remington 700's and most Ruger 77's, but my favourite rifles are Model 70's. Probably if this was compiled in the early post '64 era there would be some representation of them here.

Useful, but when I started this thread I asked about the worst gun you ever bought. Not the worst brand-new gun. Your tally only addresses part of my question. And I still think I'm winning with my Plaster-of-Paris Brno.
 
The worst I've ever bought was a Savage model 10 with a folding stock. Stock would collapse at every shot; nothing I could do would make the latch engage properly. I finally just strapped it together with a cargo strap so it couldn't fold anymore, only to find out that the rifle wouldn't hold a zero worth a damn. Traded it away years ago with full disclosure to the buyer.
The worst I've ever fired was my father-in-law's Mauser in .270. Don't know why, but it kicks more than my .375 H&H. Most unpleasant thing I've ever shot.
 
My worst was a Remington Titanium in 30-06. There was nothing I could do with that rifle to ever hit the same spot twice. Ended up using it to build a 280 that shot beautifully.

The worst I have ever seen was my buddy's Remington 710. What a POS! He was a rookie and all proud of his new rifle and scope combo. Never managed to fire a single round. The first time we went to the range with it, the bolt fell apart when I cycled the action to check it out. Such a junk rifle. He brought it back to the dealer. Dealer refused to do anything so he contacted Remington but they too refused to do anything about the warranty.
 
Useful, but when I started this thread I asked about the worst gun you ever bought. Not the worst brand-new gun. Your tally only addresses part of my question. And I still think I'm winning with my Plaster-of-Paris Brno.

No doubt you are the winner with your plaster rifle.

I noticed that a lot of he posts mentioned defects or lousy build quality, mostly of newer rifles. I have heard a few comments that new firearms are not as well finished as older ones, or that manufacturer QC is spotty. So I thought it would be interesting to tabulate it up.
What I got out of it is that there appears to be some support for the hypothesis that quality has fallen off for some brands. Couldn't see myself buying a new Remington, Ruger Mini-14 or Ruger American rifle, Savage Axis, or any new Norinco or Chiappa.
 
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