Worst rifle you ever bought?

T97 hands down. Im not one to bash norc, cause I enjoy the m14 platform....but jesus that bullpup was a heaping pile of $h17
 
Stay away from Remington, Marlin and Norinco.

The newer remlins are good but you have to carefully check, inspect and function test them before leaving the shop unless the dealer has a written money back policy for defective products.
If a shop won't let you check a new Remlin and there is no written return policy WALK AWAY.
 
I must have had around 60 rounds of load development, sighting in and hunting. Also had a fair amount of cycling and dry firing but never really improved and I could bind the bolt up fairly easily. The windage and elevation adjustments or lack of is was my only issue really, minor in a hunting role I guess but reaching out with irons is fun especially In platform like this. Don't know what to say about the finish, was scuffed to hell after a litterly few hours. Their shiny stainless finish holds up way better. Aside from that it's an awesome rifle, I've just lucked out with all my stuff.

Did you have the factory rear peep sight on your rifle?, because the factory sight has great adjustments for both windage and elevation. Sure it's not easily field adjustable, but not many peeps are.

Weird about the finish.
 
Had no problems with both my Axis (223-308)sold 223 last year the 308 is up for grabs now - never owned a 700 but gut feeling is not to get one - next 308 will be Weatherby just plain good under rated quality.
 
Browning X Bolt in 7 WSM. Tried lots of different bullets and powder combo's. Just couldn't get it to shoot. Best load I found was with a 140 Berger, and that one would shoot a 1.25" group at best at 100 yds. Was not acceptable to me so I sold it.
 
The newer remlins are good but you have to carefully check, inspect and function test them before leaving the shop unless the dealer has a written money back policy for defective products.
If a shop won't let you check a new Remlin and there is no written return policy WALK AWAY.

Having to try so hard with a gun brand is exactly the reason one should be avoiding them. Wanting a newer 700 so bad that you are willing to inspect a bunch of them before buying is the problem. There are plenty of brands a person could confidently buy sight unseen and stand a much greater chance of making a good purchase. Telling yourself these are still great guns whilst still recognizing the fact that you must pour through a bunch of boxes to find the properly finished/put together specimen is a bit counter intuitive, no?

Patrick
 
Having to try so hard with a gun brand is exactly the reason one should be avoiding them. Wanting a newer 700 so bad that you are willing to inspect a bunch of them before buying is the problem. There are plenty of brands a person could confidently buy sight unseen and stand a much greater chance of making a good purchase. Telling yourself these are still great guns whilst still recognizing the fact that you must pour through a bunch of boxes to find the properly finished/put together specimen is a bit counter intuitive, no?

Patrick

Pretty sure he is talking about the Marlin (Remlins) line up of levers. They suffered some bad QC at start up for quite a few years...
 
Marlin model 60 stainless with tube mag. It sure looked pretty but it was the worst jam-o-matic ever. I almost threw it into the dugout.

My two best are both Remington 700's, incredibly accurate and trouble-free. Absolute keepers.
 
Interested in hearing your gripes with the M65. I've used and owned a few and they are fantastic rifles.

For me it was the ruger scout. Grittiest action I've ever felt. The only thing that could have made that thing cycle worse was if you'd poured a bag of sand into the action.

Gritty action? Try topping only half a chamber...
 
Had a remington 7400 .308 that wouldn't feed 3 rounds without jamming. The worst firearm by far tough is a Chiappa 1911-22. Broken barrel bushing led to a 6 month wait on warranty work. Next time out the only steel part of the hammer fell out while shooting. This time it was almost a year at the manufacturer. Now the only thing it will feed somewhat reliably is stingers. I'd sell it but i just don't hate anyone enough to do that to them
 
You buy a lowend shytey rifle, you get a lowend shytey rifle... the reason they sell it for $300 is because they spent even less to make it.... so, who is the authority on "quality" and "value?" When you pay $300 but expect "$1000 quality..."

It would be different if you paid $1000 but got $300 quality... that is a reason for griping.

I have never met an M70 or M77 I didn't like... I have met a couple M700's and A-Bolts that I didn't care for... but the worst was a Tikka M65.

well ... the dirty truth is finally out! Those Tikka M65's are a POS .... and if you are hanging on to one for some misguided reason ..... well let me just say that modesty has - in the past - prevented me from pointing out that I do a little charitable work now and again .... and if you find yourself stuck with one of those POS forged steel actions with a forged one piece bolt and with two pairs of lugs machined into them and a fully adjustable trigger with those nasty adjustable sights... you just let me know and I will take it off your hands for a few bucks as part of my charitable commitment to Canadian sportsmen. At least it will be a hundred bucks that you would never otherwise get .. and you can put it towards one of those excellent investment cast Ruger M77 ... and experience true happiness! Times awasting and my kind charity wont last forever - PM me here!








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Having to try so hard with a gun brand is exactly the reason one should be avoiding them. Wanting a newer 700 so bad that you are willing to inspect a bunch of them before buying is the problem. There are plenty of brands a person could confidently buy sight unseen and stand a much greater chance of making a good purchase. Telling yourself these are still great guns whilst still recognizing the fact that you must pour through a bunch of boxes to find the properly finished/put together specimen is a bit counter intuitive, no?

Patrick

This is a fail on so many fronts. D.
 
A chiappa m four 22lr.
The handguard spun freely out of the box.
It had no hold open if the mag was removed and while shooting the butt stock would collapse to the shortest position as you fired each round.
I keep the bcg, buffer and barrel and rebuilt it in a NEA upper and lower and I'm quite happy now.
As for chiappa they can go pound sand before I buy their stuff again. I almost jumped on the m1 22 and 9mm carbine but glad I didn't and learned my lesson.
 
This is a fail on so many fronts. D.

Care to elaborate? My point being that there are lots of other brands with far lower rates of problems and that a person would have a much better chance ofmaking a good purchase by sticking with those brands should they have to buy sight unseen,
 
Hands down was the NIB Ruger Mini-14 (582 production) build on a Friday afternoon by the janitor playing with the CNC machines.

I filled a full sheet of paper with things wrong with that rifle. First gun i was actually AFRAID to chamber a round in and pull the trigger.

LGS took it back for full refund (yes there is a story as to WHY i did not inspect the rifle before i left the store) and i will happily to avoid most Ruger products for the rest of my shooting life.

Honorable mention to a Mossberg Patrol Rifle in .308. Really wanted to like that one, it felt good in the hands. Couldn't make it shoot worth a damn tho.
 
Care to elaborate? My point being that there are lots of other brands with far lower rates of problems and that a person would have a much better chance ofmaking a good purchase by sticking with those brands should they have to buy sight unseen,

Sure. Over the years, the 700 has outsold ALL other bolt action rifle models by a ratio of about 3:1 Percentages demand that there are going to be defects in any model of rifle, including some very expensive units.
Except for a short "glitch" during and just after the Cerebrus takeover, Remington 700's have had a solid reputation for accuracy, dependability and quality. Having owned over 100 M700 rifles in my lifetime,
Plus umpteen rifles of practically all makes and models, my experience leads me to believe that they are not near as troublesome as some would have us believe. M700 rifles have few that are on middle ground. A small
percentage of vehement "haters" and a large percentage of those who have and like them a lot. I have a t least 8 different makes of rifle in my safes. But 700's continue to dominate in numbers, and I do not
see that changing anytime soon. :) Dave.
 
Sure. Over the years, the 700 has outsold ALL other bolt action rifle models by a ratio of about 3:1 Percentages demand that there are going to be defects in any model of rifle, including some very expensive units.
Except for a short "glitch" during and just after the Cerebrus takeover, Remington 700's have had a solid reputation for accuracy, dependability and quality. Having owned over 100 M700 rifles in my lifetime,
Plus umpteen rifles of practically all makes and models, my experience leads me to believe that they are not near as troublesome as some would have us believe. M700 rifles have few that are on middle ground. A small
percentage of vehement "haters" and a large percentage of those who have and like them a lot. I have a t least 8 different makes of rifle in my safes. But 700's continue to dominate in numbers, and I do not
see that changing anytime soon. :) Dave.

I own 700s and I like them but over the last 10 years Remington has developed a higher rate of QC problems than many other brands, which is why I made the point of saying that you'd have a better chance buying something else sight unseen and not have any potential issues. I'm not advocating this nor am I suggesting the 700 isn't a great platform but I trust current Remington products less than others.

Patrick
 
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