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Is it much cheaper to reload 223 ammo?
I like to tinker, but how much am I going to need to invest to get started? I used to reload shotgun...but I can buy new shells significantly cheaper than I can reload. Any advice on getting started?
Thanks
 
.223 is a pain to resize and reload but if you shoot lots and you don’t mind spending the time, then it’s worth it. Most serious competition shooters reload.
Remember that reloading doesn’t save you money, it just allows you to shoot more.

Don’t forget to factor in the reloader press, dies and all other aspects, if you don’t already have them.

You can buy brass factory ammo for under $0.50/ round to your door, tax in.
 
Unless you reload other calibres, not worth it to me. I don't bother reloading .223 even though I have the equipment but load all my larger rifle rounds like .308, .300 win mag, 7x57, etc. Not enough savings for me since I always buy .223 in bulk and buy when sales are on.
 
My time is not really in the equation. I like to fiddle with it. But how much would it cost to get set up to start with. ConsiderING decent equipment? I'm mostly just plinking. Not super conserved with accuracy, but would still take time to get the best results I could.
 
I don't reload for a number of calibers I have, its just not worth it.

common stuff that is fairly cheap, 223, 308, 9mm, 12 and 16 gauge is just not worth my time.

also stuff that comes surplus is not really worth reloading 7.62x39 and 7.62x54, I do have dies and reloadable brass in the event that the surplus dries up.

however I do reload for a lot of other calibers that are a little harder to come by or totally unobtainable stuff like 577/450, 310 Cadet, 325WSM,

and all my hunting ammo is reloads 300WM, 7mmRM, 25-06, 22-250,

I also load 22 hornet, 357mag, 30 Carbine, 303 Brit, and a few more

but everyone has to start someplace.
 
Proceed, you give the bare minimum of information to work with.

If you're shooting a Mini 14 or one of the other similar rifles available and just plinking for giggles then just buy bulk quantities at about the same price you can hand load for.

If your shooting a rifle designed to be extremely accurate then you would likely benefit from setting up a reloading station.

Before I get flamed, I have nothing against Mini 14 type firearms or AR platforms etc. My main shooting platforms are bolt actions but I do shoot and like semi autos like the Mini 30/SKS, etc. I don't hand load for them because with experimentation, I've found the standard/unmodified rifles aren't inherently accurate enough to bother going through the effort and I have enough reasonably accurate South African 7.62x39 non corrosive to last to my last shooting days.

The SA ammo is nice and consistent but it's not accurate in bolt actions, so I hand load for my Howa 1500 chambered in 7.62x39, which allows me to load a lot hotter and it's a tack driver out to 200 meters.

I'm down to one 223rem, which I took in trade at the Kamloops show this spring. There was a bit of throat wear but with a bit of tweaking (Ruger No1) it's turned out to be every bit as accurate as the Tikka T3 it replaced. I have a lot of 5.56 Nato bulk on hand from several different manufacturers and now I'm down to one single shot rifle. Strangely enough, the surplus ammo shoots very well in the little No1 with a bull barrel. But, being an accuracy freak, not well enough so for serious work, such as Rabbits at 200-300 meters I hand load.

The 22-250 I shoot could care less whether it's fed hand loads or factory loads. It shoots all of them better than I can hold.

The list goes on.

That's why you want to hand load. Be careful though. Once the accuracy bug bites it can and often does become an obsession. An expensive obsession.

There is one other advantage to hand loading. Cost of ammo and availability of components.

I purchase everything in bulk lots. 1000 bullets from the same lot, 8 pound kegs of powder to ensure it's all from the same lot, 5K primers to ensure their from the same lot and brass by the 1000 count to ensure they are also from the same lot. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

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I reload 223 (only caliber I have) you can produce some very accurate ammo over factory. Yes, start up costs are high - but - if you like having your rifle perform at its best accuracy wise then reloading is an option. I also find the whole process rewarding in some eccentric way - and - feel accomplishment when I achieve sub MOA. Is reloading for everyone? the short answer is no - once you have the equipment its just a matter of purchasing another die for another caliber. One thing that I have learned is what may work for some guy behind the counter may not work for you - each rifle is different.
 
I am just trying to get a ballpark idea of what I would need to get going on 5.56. $0.50 to buy factory. I doubt I will save a lot, but like I said, the shotgun shells are actually more money to reload than buy. I assume I will need a press and some dies. I have calipers and micrometers...a whole machine shop. So what else would be needed? Could I get set up for $500 or so? Do I need trimmers? Tumblers? What is your opinion on what is needed to start?
 

Yes, you can do it under $500. This upcoming long weekend would be a good time to keep your eyes open for package deals or start trolling the E.E.

Cheers,
 
I expected to pay out roughly $1000 to get set up for reloading precision rifle ammo and I was pretty close to that in the end.
That's buying some new, some used, and making some hand made gear. Mostly RCBS (press, case trimmer, priming tool, dies) with some Hornady (trickler), home made loading blocks, gauges, etc.
The only Lee products I use are their powder dippers and case lube, from what I've read their quality control isn't what it used to be. I don't like the frustration of buying things twice, so I avoided Lee. That's unfortunate, their prices are attractive.
Kits are not always a good deal if you don't need everything in the kit. Most kits don't have everything you'll need for tools either.
What you'll need to buy varies depending on how precise you want to be. It's either a shallow depression or one hell of a rabbit hole.
Kinda like boats.. a hole in the water you pour money into. There are canoes, and then there are sailboats.
 
Is it much cheaper to reload 223 ammo?
I like to tinker, but how much am I going to need to invest to get started? I used to reload shotgun...but I can buy new shells significantly cheaper than I can reload. Any advice on getting started?
Thanks

That depends, are you talking about the cost of surplus ammo or are you talking about Lapua GB541, the difference in price point is noticeable. If all you want is ammo that goes bang, and is accurate enough for dynamic shooting drills, you can do that pretty cheaply with surplus ammo . . . when its available. On the other hand, handloading allows you to tailor your loads to your specific needs, such as low velocity small game and or pelt loads, game bullet loads suitable for big game, match ammo for precision target shooting, and frangible bullets for self defense loads. Essentially, you save the cost of the brass by handloading over the life of the brass case, since this is the only component that is reusable. If the brass case costs $1, after 10 reloads it cost 10 cents. If your typical load is propelled by a powder charge of 25 grs, you get 280 rounds per pound of powder, powder is between $35 and $50 a pound. Primers are about $5 or a little less per 100. Bullets vary greatly in cost, so ymmv.

If I was starting out and loading only for a small cartridge like the .223, I would take a hard look at the Lee C press. This nifty little press provides all the precision you could ask for in an affordable package of $52.50 (Higginson Powder). If you decide to get a heavier press for loading full sized cartridges, the C press remains useful for seating primers, neck expanding, and bullet seating, and having 2 presses set up to do alternating tasks speeds up the process. Oh, and if you drill a hole in your loading bench, and fasten a jar lid to the underside, the spent primers will fall right into the jar and can be disposed of at your leisure, where my RCBS press tends to bounce them all over the room.

You will need a priming tool, either a hand priming tool, a bench mounted priming tool, or an attachment for your loading press. Prices vary quite a bit, but lets say $35.

You need a set of dies for each different cartridge you intend to load for, and these tend to run about $50 for a standard die set, I prefer Redding and RCBS, but lots of folks use Lee dies and prefer them. A shell holder with probably run about $15.

You will want a scale and a powder measure. Some mechanical scales are quite affordable, but if you want digital, or a digital powder feeder, the cost is high about $622 (Reload X) compared to a mechanical scale for about $125. A Lee Safety Scale is an affordable option for $42 (Higginson) but the lack of magnetic damping which adds to the accuracy of the scale, makes it slow to use. I strongly recommend a set of scale check weights. These are inexpensive, $40ish and allow you to zero the scale to your charge weight rather than to zero. The advantage is that a balance beam scale's accuracy decreases the greater the weight you attempt to weigh above the zero weight, so zeroing to the charge weight is beneficial. The scale check weight set can also be used to check the repeatability of your scale. A powder measure is useful, particularly with ball powders that meter well, and again I prefer those made by Redding or RCBS, which run close to $300, but starting out you could easily get by with a set of Lee Spoons for $14 (Higginson). A powder funnel should run you about $5.

The only other accessory that you will really need is a a case trimmer, and again Lee comes through with their case trimmer that will cost under $20 for the cartridge specific trimmer, and $25 should get you a Wilson case mouth deburring tool.

A couple of MTM ammo boxes are useful whether you handload or use factory ammo, but the handloader can benefit from a couple of cartridge blocks to hold your brass while you go through the handloading steps. These can be had for free if you know a pistol shooter who uses factory ammo. The plastic trays that pistol ammo comes in is perfect for use as cartridge blocks 9mm size for .223, and .45 size for .308 size cartridges. Best of all they are free. You will need case lube to prevent your brass from getting stuck in the resizing die. I prefer Imperial Sizing Wax and Imperial Dry Neck Lube. the case necks are simply dipped in the dry neck lube, and a very, very thin smear of lube is applied to the center of the brass, well away from the neck . Too much lube will leave dents in the shoulder of the case, which is not dangerous, but looks bad, and is a novice error, that is easily avoided.

Unless you pockets are deep, your best bet is to begin with an affordable approach to handloading, then over time identify the bottle necks in your procedure, and upgrade for an increase the speed of you operation and the precision of you handloads, as your budget and interest allows.
 
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I handload my coyote rounds, I have all the stuff and compared to top shelf hunting ammo it’s a bit cheaper. But I also enjoy tinkering around with a load until it’s just right. I try not to throw the handloads at the gong... but it happens. Its more just something to keep my occupied after the kids go to bed. More rewarding than sitting on my butt in front of the TV. Definitely not a huge money saving endeavor.
 
Personally , as others have mentioned , I find reloading to be a very relaxing , educational and rewarding part of shooting . I only shoot long range precision with my Remington Milspec .223 and accuracy is all that matters to me . You simply cannot buy ammo as good as you can load it . I recently shot a 5 shot group under 2.5" at 650 yards and I felt a real sense of accomplishment that both me and my ammo were able to do it . That keeps shooting fun for me . Different paths for different objectives I suppose .
 
Thanks for this Boomer...I believe I will have a go at it. Sounds like a manual scale will be precise enough, digital just saving time? I would like to add 270 dies in as well, so might be better to go with rcbs press? I don't want to spend a fortune, but I don't like buying cheap and end up replacing it later...so it needs a balance.
 
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