would beding a No4mk1 be a sin?

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Im thinking about trying to accurize (not buba, im leaving it full wood) my No4mk1.
im wondering if it would be a sin to bed the stock?
or if there are any better ways (none permenant would be good) im open to sugestions.


thanks,
Joe
 
The military used to bed them for competition, so I really don't see a problem with it. Standard bedding compound should do the trick.
 
The Hippie said:
Im thinking about trying to accurize (not buba, im leaving it full wood) my No4mk1.
im wondering if it would be a sin to bed the stock?
or if there are any better ways (none permenant would be good) im open to sugestions.


thanks,
Joe

I see no issue with that at all as long as it's done well. There are some Canadian military manuals showing the approved methods of accurizing a No 4, maybe someone can show you their web address if any.
 
If you want a non-permanent method try shellac bedding, it was used by Australian and New Zealand shooters for years in competition rifles.

It's easy to do and can be removed at any time without any harm to the wood. The only drawback is that it is not as durable as regular bedding using epoxy/polyester resins and will not stand up if you disassemble the rifle on a regular basis, it can be easily repaired however.

The Recent thread on fluxes reminded me of a rifle bedding trick learned from the Kiwis at the 1979 Palma Matches at Trentham (Upper Hutt), New Zeland.

Flake Rosin, dissolved in alcohol unti it is a syrup, is handy substitute for epoxy bedding of actions to stocks, and has several advantages over epoxy. (Dissolved rosin, of course, is nothing more or less than old-time furniture glue.)

It works very well, particularly with wood stocks. It will not fill large gaps like epoxy will, but works better than epoxy where a fairly close fit already exists.

To use it, simply pour some dissolved rosin into the area of the stock you want to bed, and assemble the barreled action to the stock. Wait overnight for it to thoroughly dry before disassembling or shooting the rifle.

The advantages are:

- No relase agent is required. To disassemble the rifle, simply hit the bottom of the barrel a good whack with the flat of your hand. Most Kiwi and Aussie shooters I knew did not disassemble their rifles between shoots, because doing so broke the bond between stock and rifle. They were essentially shooting "glue-ins", with the advantage that they were easily "unglued".

- The resin is thin enough to easily penetrate wood some distance and strengthen the area under the bedding. It shrinks VERY little and fills every pore of the metal/wood it touches...producing a good bond unless the action is really highly polished.

- Each time the rifle is disassembled, a thin "paint" coat of resin can be reapplied to the existing bedded area. It will "melt" the surface of the resin already in place, so the bedding doesn't get thicker....it just re-adheres to the action as it dries.

- Available at real hardware stores as "flake resin" or "flake glue" (make sure you don't get some modern, compounded substance), this stuff is CHEAP. Enough for seventy-seven rifles will cost you a few bucks.

The Kiwis/Aussies considered this one of their "accuracy secrets" for high-power competition. Maybe it will work for you.....

I have used this method on Enfields/Mosins/Mausers and it works pretty well. Flake rosin is just flake shellac you just don't mix in as much alcohol as if you were going to re-finish wood. Hide glue also works pretty well, you can buy both of them from Lee Valley Tools.
 
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hmm, wow this is alot of replys. that Flake rosin method looks good, but i havnt read all those pages yet.
what about free floating the barrel? that sounds permenant, but if it works, i dont think id regret it.
I also dont plan on taking it apart often, as i havnt taken it apart yet. party due to the fact that i think i need to take off the front site, and that would mean resighting in. (not hard, just a PITA)

thanks for all the replys
Joe
 
The Hippie said:
party due to the fact that i think i need to take off the front site, and that would mean resighting in. (not hard, just a PITA)

The front sight can stay on.
 
The Hippie said:
im wondering if it would be a sin to bed the stock?
or if there are any better ways (none permenant would be good) im open to sugestions.


thanks,
Joe


Hi Joe... :)

~Angel~ had had several of her Longbranch DCRA Enfield conversions re-bedded and the results were terrific. She wouldn't start tinkering with on eof her expensive collector's items, but if it's a shooter, go for it..... :D

She had them done by a guy on the staff of a prominent Toronto gunsmith. This particular indvidual has considerable experience in old milsurps and his work is excellent.

Regards,
Badger
 
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