would like to build a 300rum

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I am not a gunsmith and probably know just enough to be dangerous but was curious if this project might make sense. I was thinking about ordering one of the cheaper m700 remingtons in 300 RUM and then removing the stock and the barrel. I then wanted to order a beavertail composite stock and have a gunsmith install a heavy barrel in 300 RUM. Would that be expensive? My goal is to make a long range gun, not for competition but for my own entertainment. would any other modifications be required and if I could get the m700 at a reasonable price, what would the total project likely end up costing me. Also, is there anyone you would recomend to do the work?

thanks for looking

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you could expect to pay around $600 for the barrel alone


keep an eye out for the new m700 Sendero SF II's in 300 Ultra, it might be close to what you're looking for, but straight from the factory (26" heavy stainless-fluted barrel w/ big forearm fiberglass stock).
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Save yourself a few dollars and get a rifle from this site. Run a want list. If you are going to rebuild, there is no need to start with a new action. Put the extra money saved into the barrel and tuning of the action. As far as cost, well that all depends on what you purchase and how much work you do yourself. Set limits as to what you want to spend on each item and start looking. The last project I did was a hunter class 308. Used a Mauser action, Parker Hale full profile barrel, Timmley trigger and restocked (wood) it myself. All parts were used. Total cost was $575.00. The rifle, with the right load, would shoot a 1/2" 5 shot group@100 yds.
 
i'am buildin .300 RUM

That's exactly what i'am building

I have a 700SPS, i have removed the barrel AND the stock, new barrel from Mike Rock with 5R type groove is comming home, MCMILLAN stock will be installed and all the other part's are from badger ordnance (mount, trigger guard, bolt knob, scope ring)

RIFLE : SPS 600$
BARREL : 750$ 1.25at chamber, .970 at the crown, OPS brake installed
Badger part's : 785$
Mcmillan stock: +600$ ?? not finish yet
gunsmith labour: +500$
Armacoat Finish: -100$
Running around 3335.00$ for evrything, i hope my BUILD list will help you decide.
Actually shoot a sendero in .300win mag, i still have few boxes of match ammo for it, it shoot well under 3/4in. at 100yard. the trigger is under 1 pound, there is a Badger bolt knob and leopold bases and ring, i will post pic soon as it will be for sale soon if interested, will post on CNG.(I keep the scope and bi-pod)
OR you can wait to have a factory, they are excellent shooter, i just wanted a custom built rifle with MY wish part's on it..

Hope it will help you

Sendero
 
Do any of you know how much work will be required to make a regular 700 action feed the fluf? (fluf = fat little ugly f***er)

Some times it can be a real pain getting the short mags to feed nicely.
 
I know this is not the caliber you asked about, but a Tikka T3 Varmint in 6.5x55 would be very effective at long range. The match bullets fly well and this combo is known to be accurate. I can't remember where I read it, but there are guys using T3 Lites in 6.5x55 for shooting at 1000 yards, and they do well! This would cost under $1000. The rest could be put towards a very good scope.
 
Why ???

guntech said:
Do any of you know how much work will be required to make a regular 700 action feed the fluf? (fluf = fat little ugly f***er)

Some times it can be a real pain getting the short mags to feed nicely.
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Why is it so hard to feed, the SPS i have is already in .300 RUM and anyway, the bolt face is the same as a regular 300 win. mag., can you help me in this before a invest all that money ???

What about a rifle in .308, is possible to make it shoot the .300RSAUM ??

last of the 3rd question, why you don't like thoses fat cartdrige

Thank's for you for your help

Sendero
 
sendero said:
Why is it so hard to feed, the SPS i have is already in .300 RUM and anyway, the bolt face is the same as a regular 300 win. mag., can you help me in this before a invest all that money ???

What about a rifle in .308, is possible to make it shoot the .300RSAUM ??

last of the 3rd question, why you don't like thoses fat cartdrige

Thank's for you for your help

Sendero
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I have not built any of the new short mags, I have done some of the ulta mags. Even some of the ultra mags right from the factory have feeding problems. I have read more than a few stories about feeding problems. I don't know how successful your conversion from .308 to a .300SAUM will be, I suggest talking it over with your gunsmith and see what he says....

The first thing I would do is see how it feeds and make that work before doing anything else.... if you are not happy with how it feeds, you won't be happy with the finished conversion.

I think the short mags are an attempt to fix something that wasn't broken... I don't blame the companies for "inventing" them and advertising them... they are in the market to do that. The quality of the brass has been a disappointment as well. Some feel the WSSM's are part of Winchesters demise.

But in the end everyone is justified to build what they want for any reason they want.......
 
sendero said:
That's exactly what i'am building

I have a 700SPS, i have removed the barrel AND the stock, new barrel from Mike Rock with 5R type groove is comming home, MCMILLAN stock will be installed and all the other part's are from badger ordnance (mount, trigger guard, bolt knob, scope ring)

RIFLE : SPS 600$
BARREL : 750$ 1.25at chamber, .970 at the crown, OPS brake installed
Badger part's : 785$
Mcmillan stock: +600$ ?? not finish yet
gunsmith labour: +500$
Armacoat Finish: -100$
Running around 3335.00$ for evrything, i hope my BUILD list will help you decide.
Actually shoot a sendero in .300win mag, i still have few boxes of match ammo for it, it shoot well under 3/4in. at 100yard. the trigger is under 1 pound, there is a Badger bolt knob and leopold bases and ring, i will post pic soon as it will be for sale soon if interested, will post on CNG.(I keep the scope and bi-pod)
OR you can wait to have a factory, they are excellent shooter, i just wanted a custom built rifle with MY wish part's on it..

Hope it will help you

Sendero
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My question is if you are throwing that kind of money into that gun, Why would you not go full custom and use a aftermarket action? For about the same money CDN you would be able to build a full blown custom.


Calvin
 
cycbb486 said:
My question is if you are throwing that kind of money into that gun, Why would you not go full custom and use a aftermarket action? For about the same money CDN you would be able to build a full blown custom.


Calvin
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Except i have not choose my trigger system yet (shilen, timney, riflebasix or so) can you explain me what is not custom on this kit ??, if someone have a used 300RUM i would have buy it but NEVER see one yet... and the new one i have will be blue printed or trued ( i don't know the real term) i think's i'm very near of a full custom rifle ??? there is some SURGEON action comming in canada BUT only in short action
Explain me what you mean by FULL BLOWN CUSTOM please??

Sendero
 
I think he means not a Remington action. There are several after market actions available - Montana Rifleman is one. PGW also has a custom action but they are very busy with a DND contract. These are just two, there are many more.
 
Ha ok thank's, now i understand, i will probably get a Surgeon action anyway to make a .300RSAUM with a other Mike Rock 5R barrel i will have in stock.

Anyway, poor Milo, i was just answering his question to help him about the price and the part's involved, we are now far from his question :)

Sendero
 
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If your looking for high qaulity rings and bases, generally second to none, consider TPS

http://www.tacticalprecision.com/

Bases start in the $85 range, rings $82-$125 Steel or aircraft grade al7075!

That will save you some money!

Now if your looking for a high end trigger that will retain its value, consider the Jewell trigger line! As the popular custom action makers what brand of trigger they install the most;)

Always shop around!

The Surgeon action is an interesting one which I think we will be seeing more of.

Also, do not forget about Armtech - www.armtechcanada.com

PGWTI - keep in touch with them as well since you never know what extras they may be running.

Joe
 
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What I

was meaning by full blown custom is using an aftermarket action to build off of. Nesika, Bat, Farley, Stolle, etc. They are far superior when it comes to strength and tolerences.
 
thank's

cycbb486 said:
was meaning by full blown custom is using an aftermarket action to build off of. Nesika, Bat, Farley, Stolle, etc. They are far superior when it comes to strength and tolerences.
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Ok, now i understand but the only one i know is Surgeon, some are comming in canada but no long action yet, is there some canadian dealer that have some of these in stock and where, i'm tired to bother with the import permit, need one for barrel, need one for the stock, need one for all badger ordnance part's etc...

i don't whant to pay 1500.00$ only for the action as some of the best sniper rifle are made out of 700 action ...

Thank's

Sendero
 
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Permit would be

required for all. Yes that is true. But all can be had in Canada. You can get great Canadian made barrels in Canada. I would say the big 3 are Gaillard, Smith, and McClennan along with a few other small operations. Barrel choice probably runs territorial.

A great Canadian synthetic stock can be found in Canada by Robertson Composites in Ontario. Everybody has this thing about McMillan tactical stocks. If we would look a little closer and see who Ian and his staff make stocks for you would see that some of the top shooters and gunsmiths use his product. If I am correct one of the big names in the US, Speedy Gonzales, has Ian manufacture a line of his stocks.

Actions, yes there is PGW Tactical. There are many people who have permits in place for importing a action if you want.

Scope mounts and rings Near manufacturing in Alberta.

Match triggers, there are suppliers on the Forum who carry most aftermarket triggers in stock. Alberta Tactical and ### International.

As far as the actions that I have mentioned in my earlier post Rick @ Alberta Tactical frequently gets US made actions.

Optics are a non issue because there is somebody in Canada who can get what you want.

The bottom line is "IT CAN ALL BE BOUGHT AT HOME" without permits.

You said that you do not want to spend 1500.00 on the action alone. If you sit down and figure all the components you want to put on the Rem 700 versus building from scratch you will find that you would be pretty close. Yes some of the best guns are on Rem 700's but you try to sell that Rem 700 for what you put into it.

I have 2000.00 into my Rem 700 6BR not counting the action. I do not think anybody would buy it from me for that. If I could get that it would be gone and a full blown BR would be sitting in its place.


JMO
 
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Another consideration and not a cheap venture is the HS Precision rifle line. P&D Ent in Edmonton is bringing them in and if they have the features you are looking for its probably the easiest and best way to spend your money.

We will be placing an action order with Neiska or Bat in the near future. There are feature differences etc. between the manufacturers that you have to consider on an individual bases. Building a custom action rifle from the ground up is not inexpensive. I feel its a better route compared to accurizing a Rem. 700 if you don't already have the gun.

I would say one of our Canadian fibreglass stock manufacturers has lost a good portion of sales to the USA (Mcmillan) due the styles they are or are not offering. Thankfully we have fantastic selections in North America and they are still easy to get.

Purchasing an action from the USA today is actually not that bad given the exchange rate has made significant improvements (credit card rates from 1.62 down to 1.2 ish - saves alot of money). As we all know, the down side of a strong dollar is down turn of exports (cuts into the sales of Canadian made goods).
 
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