I am interested in trying IPSC and am trying to decide what gun to get. I am thinking the production division would be a good one to start in. Would the BERETTA 92 BRIGADIER be a good gun to start with? What would be the good and bad points with that gun.
Would the BERETTA 92 BRIGADIER be a ok IPSC gun
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If you are getting a new gun, consider reliability and the ergonomics most. How reliably is the gun, how easy is to clear any delays. Hod good does it fits your hand, can you keep a good grip on the gun at recoil, can you easily reach the mag release button.
In my subjective opinion, from number of aspects Beretta is not the best gun for IPSC. If you considering getting a new or used gun, I'd recommend to consider CZ Shadow, S&W M&P, GP6 or even Glock, all in 9mm. CZ is used by lot of top Production shooters.
In my subjective opinion, from number of aspects Beretta is not the best gun for IPSC. If you considering getting a new or used gun, I'd recommend to consider CZ Shadow, S&W M&P, GP6 or even Glock, all in 9mm. CZ is used by lot of top Production shooters.
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If you already own one, or just really like the design and feel in your hand, by all means go for it.
If you are still looking for a suitable gun, there are several popular models out there. Beretta isn't at the top of the list, but there's no reason it's not a suitable choice.
For truly competitive shooters, the default standard is the CZ SP01 Shadow. I really like the STI GP6. The Glock and S&W Shadow are also common. I wouldn't steer someone away from the last two if it's what they have or really want. However, the double action every shot is a disadvantage compared to the classic double action first shot only systems in my opinion.
If you are still looking for a suitable gun, there are several popular models out there. Beretta isn't at the top of the list, but there's no reason it's not a suitable choice.
For truly competitive shooters, the default standard is the CZ SP01 Shadow. I really like the STI GP6. The Glock and S&W Shadow are also common. I wouldn't steer someone away from the last two if it's what they have or really want. However, the double action every shot is a disadvantage compared to the classic double action first shot only systems in my opinion.
Canuck and Euxx give some good advice!
I stated with a G17 a few years ago, and am now shooting GP6! Berettas have to be at the bottom of the list for most common used firearms in IPSC.
The one thing I will add, that you didn't ask the question for, but.......if you want to, or plan to shoot any of the other action shooting games, like IDPA, ODPL et al, the Glock and the S&W win out. So if you plan to only have one gun......gasp!!!!!......I would go with one of those 2. If you just plan on IPSC, the Glock or S&W can be totally outfitted with belt, mag pouches holster for around $1000.......CZ, you can add a couple hundred more!
Hope that didn't muddy the waters too much!
I stated with a G17 a few years ago, and am now shooting GP6! Berettas have to be at the bottom of the list for most common used firearms in IPSC.
The one thing I will add, that you didn't ask the question for, but.......if you want to, or plan to shoot any of the other action shooting games, like IDPA, ODPL et al, the Glock and the S&W win out. So if you plan to only have one gun......gasp!!!!!......I would go with one of those 2. If you just plan on IPSC, the Glock or S&W can be totally outfitted with belt, mag pouches holster for around $1000.......CZ, you can add a couple hundred more!
Hope that didn't muddy the waters too much!
The best gun to start IPSC with is any gun that you already have that meets the minimum caliber (9mm).
Shoot a couple matches, and use that time to talk to people at the match. Most of them will probably let you handle it in the safety area so you can see what fits your hand best.
Last thing you want to do is go out and spend money on a gun that you may end up shelving so you can get something you like better.
Shoot a couple matches, and use that time to talk to people at the match. Most of them will probably let you handle it in the safety area so you can see what fits your hand best.
Last thing you want to do is go out and spend money on a gun that you may end up shelving so you can get something you like better.
It is a fine gun to use in IPSC. I use it when shooting production. It was my first handgun and I will never sell it. I still enjoy shooting it. Slavex a top Canadian production shooter used one for many years.
If you practice properly, you can be good even with a slingshot.
Perfect practice and knowing the rules win matches. The best can win with a Norinco firearm.
If you practice properly, you can be good even with a slingshot.
Perfect practice and knowing the rules win matches. The best can win with a Norinco firearm.
I'd still run a Beretta if they could make the Elite II's again. Great guns, accurate, simple to work on, work great with any ammo, and super reliable.
However if you shoot 30000+ rounds a year out of them, they will not survive.
However if you shoot 30000+ rounds a year out of them, they will not survive.
Go to your local indoor gun range and see if they have them as a range gun. The best thing is try them out and see what feels the best for you. I know the CZ's trigger are very nice, I have tried many of the models. Try the CZ 75 SP-01, I have notice at many matches many IPSC shooter use this particular model.
Check out the link to see all the pistol listing in the production division.
http://www.ipsc.org/
Check out the link to see all the pistol listing in the production division.
http://www.ipsc.org/
If you own the gun, at least shoot it for the time being. If you like it, shoot it well, and it is reliable, I say yes it would be a good gun to use, as what concerns me with new shooters is them having a gun they are comfortable with, it feels good to them, they can shoot it well, and it needs to go bang everytime. Regardless of the manufacturer, certain guns fit certain people, and some have success where others wouldn't with a particualr firearm. Get out to the range and talk to other shooters, maybe ask to handle their guns and ask what they like about the guns they are using. There is a not a one size fits all analogy when it comes to selecting a firearm. You need to find what you like. Good luck!
I shoot a Beretta M9 for IPSC solely because its the only 9mm i have for now and it works fine but I would say there are alot better options out there if your deciding what to buy. Like most IPSC guys will tell you, if you want to be competitive you cannot go wrong with the CZ Shadow.
If you want to be competitive, Practice. A gun will not win a match. Your ability to use a gun, even a Norinco will win you matches.
The top shooters will beat you because they are better shooters and not by the gun they use. They will will beat you with a pea shooter.
Thanks for all the advice guys. Just to clarify a few things. I don’t have the gun yet I am looking to buy my first hand gun. It is just one I see at our local gun shop I like the look and fit. Someone suggested it is double action only and if it is I will avoid it.
What I want to do is get a gun to play with over the winter before I take my black badge course. I am aware at my skill level (which is at 0%) a top dollar gun is not going to make any difference in my shooting. What I do want is a gun that isn’t going to hinder me as I start to work up my skill. I don’t want a gun I have to compensate for because at my skill level it will slow down my progress. But I also don’t need a gun they helps someone who it a top shooter gain a small edge. I just want a gun I don’t have to think about so I can work on my skills. And it has to look good also
What I want to do is get a gun to play with over the winter before I take my black badge course. I am aware at my skill level (which is at 0%) a top dollar gun is not going to make any difference in my shooting. What I do want is a gun that isn’t going to hinder me as I start to work up my skill. I don’t want a gun I have to compensate for because at my skill level it will slow down my progress. But I also don’t need a gun they helps someone who it a top shooter gain a small edge. I just want a gun I don’t have to think about so I can work on my skills. And it has to look good also
Just for some perspective!
There were 2 Beretta's at our recent Level 3 Charity Match out of 40 Production Guns. The Lions share, say 40% were CZ 75 or Derivatives (Shadows, Tanfoglio Stock 1 and 2's etc), 4 or 5 Sti GP6's and the Rest Glocks and M&P's, maybe a couple of Sigs!
There were 2 Beretta's at our recent Level 3 Charity Match out of 40 Production Guns. The Lions share, say 40% were CZ 75 or Derivatives (Shadows, Tanfoglio Stock 1 and 2's etc), 4 or 5 Sti GP6's and the Rest Glocks and M&P's, maybe a couple of Sigs!
Also consider this. You could get Beretta 92FS for $724 and new CZ Shadow would be $799 before taxes (with two mags). Then you need to buy 4 more magazines for IPSC + pouches for those magazines and holster for your new gun. If you were to get a new gun later, you'll have to get a new holster and new magazines again.
Assuming CZ also fits your hand (may need to put thin grips), the advantage of CZ, especially to a new shooter, is that you can get its double action and single action trigger very soft and light staying legal for Production. If you haven't tried it yet, do that before you get any other gun.
Assuming CZ also fits your hand (may need to put thin grips), the advantage of CZ, especially to a new shooter, is that you can get its double action and single action trigger very soft and light staying legal for Production. If you haven't tried it yet, do that before you get any other gun.
The grip would be the same. Safety and the magazine release button is a bit different (i.e. more accessible in a Shadow). Also, Shadow has a front rail, so it is a bit heavier on the front than 75B or even Beretta, but that helps with controlling recoil.
One thing about Shadow is that it is a bit tricky to get it legal for equivalent of Production division of IDPA, but hopefully you won't want to shoot IDPA anyways.
One thing about Shadow is that it is a bit tricky to get it legal for equivalent of Production division of IDPA, but hopefully you won't want to shoot IDPA anyways.
