would there be an interest in a projectile that is up to 1/3 heavier

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Hi guys,

Just a question as an inventor type,
Would there be any use for a projectile that is roughly 10-30% heavier than a standard lead projectile if it was the same length as a normal projectile?

This means I could make a 30 cal projectile with the same dimensions as a 180 grn that weighs 200-240 grains

or I could make a projectile with the same dimensions as a 230 grn that weighs 250-300 grains
copper jacket, soft core that will come apart on impact to deliver the energy to the target

any feed back would be appreciated
 
not DU

it would be a byproduct of machining, made into powder then pressed into the jacket/ encapsulated
 
Nah, I'm more of a target shooter. I'd be interested in the differences in balistics with the new material. I am specialy interested in heavy for caliber, subsonic bullets.

The way I figure your idea it'd give somewhat of a frangible bullet or would have to be a FMJ, IMHO one would be a poor choice for ethical hunting, and the other is prohibited where I'm at.
 
The increase in weight is an interesting thought.. You would have to build a round ie. powder type, burn rate, cup...
What's the material & density ? What is the metallurgy ? Melt temp etc. need more info
 
Tungsten would be less dense than lead. I'd say he is thinking Bismuth although this won't give the weight gains (for a similar sized bullet) as mentioned (i.e. 30%). Depleted Uranium is the next best thing but have a hard time believing that this is available broadly and in Commercial quantities.

Would be very interested in knowing what materials are being discussed.
 
I would be interested in trying out some tungsten oxide bullets just to say that I've got em... :)

I'll take a box or two and help with ballistic experimentation. I would like to get a general idea as to what the terminal ballistics would be like on these bullets. Sounds like a pretty unique and interesting project.
 
Gold bullets? The metal that stops zombies in their tracks!

Kidding aside, I am interested in reading range reports, ballistics, performance etc. resulting from the application of this idea. As for using myself, I am hesitant to use even soft steel cored bullets, let alone those composed of a metal that is used in taps and dies... if the metal was encased such that it would never contact the rifling, and cost/performance warranted its use, that would be fine.
 
the jacket would prevent the heavy stuff from touching the rifling
from the outside they would look the same

does anyone have some donor 30cal jackets?
 
There is a picture on another forum (hide) from a guy that shot a deer with a powdered tungsten core bullet, terrible terrible shot placement. But holy crap did it stop the deer in its tracks, and make a mess
 
wyldr said:
does anyone have some donor 30cal jackets?
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May want to look into bullet swaging equipment and dies.

http://www.corbins.com/index.htm

You could develop your own process, but in general, you will need a way to create a jacket, then fill it with your tungsten and oxide powder. The rest from there I would guess is metallurgical, as to whether you want to use it as a fine powder, which would probably be simplest, or as solid, in which case there may be issues given the melting point of tungsten is 2000 degrees C higher than copper.

Alternatively, find some soft point or hollow tip match bullets, and melt the lead out of it.
 
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