Would you buy a rifle that is on the looming C21 amendment list?

I don't want to nor need to buy anything more, I just want to be able to use what I already have. I need to take these babies for a stroll in their natural environment of the range ASAP!!

I'm old enough to remember when all of those could be taken outside and shot darn near anywhere. THAT was their natural environment.
 
Applied for my RPAL in February...
Didn't get it until November...
Was actually issued BEFORE the handgun freeze but they put the wrong address...
Felt like I missed out huge...
Libs put out the silly amendment; made me go... nuh-uh... I don't care. I'd rather have something in the safe than nothing.
So picked up my first x95.
 
If all the stars align and the court challenge is successful does that also open up all the NR's that got caught up?
I REALLY want an AR-10 but didn't have the cash when they were available.

Oh if it did I'm sure the EE would be a flurry of buying and selling activity for awhile.
 
Same. Was looking at a BCL102 not that long ago. Waited too long and then the OIC hit and by then I got a WK180C as a somewhat consolation price even though it was on a different platform. Would still like to hopefully have an opportunity to get an AR10 platform at some point in my life, hopefully in Canada....but at this point I ain't holding my breath anytime soon.

I bought a WK180 for the same reason but I sold it shortly after.
I never really loved that caliber.

I still want a 308 semi !!
 
I'm 67 years old, since 1986 I've competed in IPSC (revolver & single stack), .22 silhouette, Action pistol, 3 gun matches, World War 2 re-enactor matches and Cowboy Action with assorted side matches. I basically had all the required firearm prior to the OIC. In the last 13 months I've sold 3 rifles, 2 pistols and transferred 2 pistols to my wife. I've bought 1 rifle and 1 pistol. My decision to not buy any more firearms in the future is based both on the fact that I possess enough to compete in the disciplines that I'm currently involved in, unfortunately due to age, and past indiscretions, my body is telling me that it finally is the time to minimize the amount of action style matches that are available. It is my desire to compete for another 6-7 years if possible. What pi**es me off is Juniors attempt to ruin a well-planned out retirement.

"Retirement is a ball, getting old s**ks"
 
Grand I'm still not the last guy on the list. He's 80! I'm only 78. Ya just keep throwing lead down range and don't give a poop what Trudeau does or doesn't do. There is nothing that young elitist can do to me and he sure is hell won't be picking up any of my guns.

Take Care
Bob
 
I will say it is more foolish to play the what if game with what the government will and will not do.

I will continue to buy firearms which interest me, irrespective of what the government does or does not do. I have had naysayers tell me in the past 2 years since the OIC not to buy this or that gun...and they may be right long term, but honestly, I would have robbed myself of 1-2 years of enjoying some really fun firearms that I have purchased and use regularly. No regrets. Sure, some will say if I was caught in a situation like some folks who had their guns-in-transit immediately quashed by the OIC two years ago - I may have second thoughts buying something that is on the government's hit list. But truth of the matter is, I almost died earlier this year from health related stuff, and at this point, I am not going to spend my time (however long or short I have) worrying about something like trying to time the Liberals' next steps.

Heck, even though I have had my PAL for almost 20 years, I decided to FINALLY upgrade to a Restricted this past summer. Of course, by the time I got my upgraded restricted endorsement card, the freeze was on. Still, I am not deterred and am going literally tomorrow to my LGS to purchase my first restricted (SBR). Naysayers told me I wasted my time in paying for my course and getting my Restricted given the current social and political climate. Certainly I had other opportunities to do it sooner and the fact that I didn't is totally on me. But I have no regrets getting it this summer.

Reminds me of two of my kids years ago in Montreal...both were lined up on the zip line across the harbour. My fearless daughter who was much younger, got on there and went "weeeeeee" as she went barreling across. She still talks about how awesome of an experience it was. My son, much older than her and much bigger than all of us, was next in line but he completely chickened out and said "I didn't want to die" and then took off whatever they clipped on him and then climbed back down (to my chagrin who pre-paid for his experience). To this day my daughter is recalling her experience with fondness, while my son says he "wishes" that he had gone ahead and hopes he has another opportunity to try it.

Trudeau won't be in forever. Poilievre is finally the opposition leader all of us were hoping for, and so it's going to be an interesting few years.

My advice...buy your rifle, though I'd have to say if you can, get an X95 or SL8 instead of the WK (and this from a guy who has a WK).

I completely respect and agree that being said unfortunately the situation isn't the same for me. I for one am taking a not buying anything approach in fear of being screwed over. There's actually more though as I said I completely agree with "thegazelle's" take on it. However, the other factors for me are that while I am and have been a legal firearms owner for over 7 years I'm no where close to being an avid shooter. In the earlier days of gun ownership I only went to the range like 2-3 times a year. Now 2 kids deep, mortgage etc time and money are different and the gamble isn't worth it for me not right now anyway. Sad!
 
winson82 exactly the right decision. I raised 2 boys who are now successful men. With young kids, a mortgage and saving for son's education is where you should be right now. Play time and toys can wait.

All the best.
Take Care
Bob
 
Same. Was looking at a BCL102 not that long ago. Waited too long and then the OIC hit and by then I got a WK180C as a somewhat consolation price even though it was on a different platform. Would still like to hopefully have an opportunity to get an AR10 platform at some point in my life, hopefully in Canada....but at this point I ain't holding my breath anytime soon.

It seems like Spectre LTd/Crusader Arms have been teasing us with just that earlier this week. Fingers crossed for a new semi auto .308.
 
Grand I'm still not the last guy on the list. He's 80! I'm only 78. Ya just keep throwing lead down range and don't give a poop what Trudeau does or doesn't do. There is nothing that young elitist can do to me and he sure is hell won't be picking up any of my guns.

Take Care
Bob

Bob, I would have had no idea you were 78! It is great that you can get out and compete in shooting competitions and are still passionate and well versed in the technical aspects of firearms. Based on your posts, I thought you were in your 50s. I hope to be where you are once I get to my retirement years (I will be 50 next month, but the way life is going, I will surely be on the Freedom 85 plan...)
 
I completely respect and agree that being said unfortunately the situation isn't the same for me. I for one am taking a not buying anything approach in fear of being screwed over. There's actually more though as I said I completely agree with "thegazelle's" take on it. However, the other factors for me are that while I am and have been a legal firearms owner for over 7 years I'm no where close to being an avid shooter. In the earlier days of gun ownership I only went to the range like 2-3 times a year. Now 2 kids deep, mortgage etc time and money are different and the gamble isn't worth it for me not right now anyway. Sad!

Winson82, I completely respect your position, and here's the thing...even though I have had my PAL for almost 20 years, I took a 8-10 year hiatus in there, in doing exactly what you are doing - raising kids, paying mortgage, and in my case, going through a very bad divorce that sucked almost 200K out of me for legal costs alone. That set me back significantly and many have told me I am being foolish in spending some of whatever meager funds I have on firearms and ammo. I think if I didn't, I'd go stir crazy just paying bills and cleaning the house and working all day and night (not necessarily in that order).

My friend, you have your priorities right, and I will say this, there may come a time where the government bans everything and almost everything I own becomes safe queens. Given that likely I will work myself to the grave, I am sure if that happens, I would have wished that maybe I could have liquidated some of my guns and ammo and give the proceeds to my kids, etc. Because another factor for me which I should be thinking about is, if I croak tomorrow, guess what's gonna happen to my guns. No one is gonna inherit them. My family won't want them and likely will just bring them to the police station and give them away. My ammo will be on sale dirt cheap on an estate sale. While certainly my position I have highlighted above is what I am currently thinking, it is not without its drawbacks nor its shortcomings.
 
I completely respect and agree that being said unfortunately the situation isn't the same for me. I for one am taking a not buying anything approach in fear of being screwed over. There's actually more though as I said I completely agree with "thegazelle's" take on it. However, the other factors for me are that while I am and have been a legal firearms owner for over 7 years I'm no where close to being an avid shooter. In the earlier days of gun ownership I only went to the range like 2-3 times a year. Now 2 kids deep, mortgage etc time and money are different and the gamble isn't worth it for me not right now anyway. Sad!

Look a it this way.

Someday the fed govt is gonna have a real crack at an authoritarian system. Food, water, shelter etc will all be in short supply, while the govt actively tries to subdue and squash the average citizen. A semi-auto rifle is like a fire extinguisher, you hope to never need it but when you need it, nothing else will do. A semi-auto rifle is an investment in your children's future because if we allow the govt to disarm all of us, your kids will have no future.
 
Look a it this way.

Someday the fed govt is gonna have a real crack at an authoritarian system. Food, water, shelter etc will all be in short supply, while the govt actively tries to subdue and squash the average citizen. A semi-auto rifle is like a fire extinguisher, you hope to never need it but when you need it, nothing else will do. A semi-auto rifle is an investment in your children's future because if we allow the govt to disarm all of us, your kids will have no future.

If he gets his kids thru school with an ability to earn their way, they will have a future. He is smart enough to know where his priorities are. There is no scenario where tending to family obligations would be secondary to buying a Fnnn semi-auto rifle. Frankly, this doomsday nonsense gets a bit old. Check out the size of our military and you will feel a bit less concerned about some "authoritarian state" that you elected decides to squash you.

Take Care

Bob
 
It's probably a good time to point out that Venezeulans elected Chavez into power. Democratically. They didn't have a huge army back then, either, and Chavez won by a landslide.
That was only 25 years ago, and to this day they still have "elections".
Trudeau has done many of the same things Chavez did when he first came into power, so it's probably not wise to assume we have little to worry about.
Personally, I don't think Trudeau is the next Chavez. Even his supporters don't trust him much anymore, his days in office are (hopefully) numbered. But using taxpayer dollars to prop up the media, along with his disarmament agenda and the latest C11 censorship bill etc he's laying the cornerstones in place for a future autocrat to take root. It's time to pay attention.
 
I got myself a Type 81 while the amendment was on the table, even with it off, firearms will still be under attack, just postponed 😔

Looking at getting another semi auto though so 🤷
 
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