Would you consider bringing in Norinco 97 bullpups? (Part Deux)
- Thread starter Deckard
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You posted so many times that you want a 5.8 chinese gun (and ammo), and I remember many people explained in different threads that is very difficult to have one outside China. Just out of curiousity, why are you so obsessed with the 5.8 chinese round?I know this sounds crazy but I'd pay 2,000$ for a Type 88 in the 5.8mm Chinese with a case of ammo. Would have to save it up first, but should be able to do that in under a year if I got word on how to get one.
Dimitri
Yes its been mentioned before that the Chinese are unwilling to export it at this time, but my obsession with the 5.8mm round is cause I kinda like the look of the Type 88 and I just want the original chambering.
It would be like buying a M14/M1A thats been converted to 243Win its just not the same.
Dimitri
Join Blackwater, maybe you will get a China assignment
I don't think Blackwater would want me.
Dimitri
Clobbersauras
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restricted due to barrel legnth...another 1/2 inch needed.
Weapontech
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Well, I've just spent the last hour reading through this entire thread.
.....damned my eye's hurt.
Now more than ever I can honestly say that picking one of these up would be an awesome addition. $799 (or therabouts) is very reasonable for a semi-auto, unrestricted rifle and it will be my first (owned by me, not the feds) bull-pup rifle. Thanks Deckard for all your efforts........hope to have one in my new gunroom soon. In the meantime, my credit card awaits.
.....damned my eye's hurt.
Now more than ever I can honestly say that picking one of these up would be an awesome addition. $799 (or therabouts) is very reasonable for a semi-auto, unrestricted rifle and it will be my first (owned by me, not the feds) bull-pup rifle. Thanks Deckard for all your efforts........hope to have one in my new gunroom soon. In the meantime, my credit card awaits.
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Read how the junta screws bullpup designers
They took sample rifles, inspected them, and then they poorly copy them. GREASY. Now maybe we can buy the bullpup for under $400 Lecta.
Burma Making Small Arms
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By THE IRRAWADDY AUGUST, 1998 - VOLUME 6 NO.4
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Despite economic crisis and simmering social unrest, Burma’s military leaders have continued to purchase more arms and ammunition over the past decade. With over 300,000 soldiers, and no external threats, the generals are determined to expand and maintain the largest army in Southeast Asia.
Burma has begun manufacturing small arms, and possibly ordnance, using a prefabricated factory designed and built by Chartered Industries of Singapore (CIS) in conjunction with Israeli consultants. The purpose-built factory of modular design was produced last year in Singapore before being dismantled after testing. It is intended to produce small arms and weapons up to 37mm in caliber, according to sources contacted by Jane’s Defence Weekly (JDW).
The plant is believed to be a first for CIS, its modular design allowing for future expansion. Israeli consultants who worked on the project are linked with Israeli Military Industries, although it is unclear whether they are current or former employees. The factory’s existence has yet to be formally announced, but documents obtained by JDW indicate that it was shipped from Singapore to Yangon (formerly Rangoon) in mid-February aboard the Sin Ho, a vessel owned by the Singapore-registered company Lian Huat Shipping Co Pte.
The cargo weighed 413,341kg and was packaged in 36m by 12m containers, described in shipping documents as containing a “pre-engineered building system.” It is not known whether this represents the entire facility or whether other elements were shipped separately.
Myanmar Hong Leong Ltd, the shipment’s notifier, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of a publicly-listed Singapore company. The consignee is listed as the Directorate of Defence Industries, Ministry of Defence, which is Myanmar’s state-owned arms and ordnance manufacturer. The factory’s design means that it may have been assembled within weeks, perhaps at Magway, around 400km north of Yangon on the east bank of the Irrawaddy River. The facility may have been erected within an existing structure, such as an aircraft hangar or a warehouse.
The first item being produced is thought to be the EMERK-1, a local design available as either an assault rifle or light machine gun (LMG). These have recently begun to be issued to troops guarding sections of the Yadana pipeline project, Rangoon-based diplomatic sources have confirmed.
The EMERK-1, a bullpup configuration, was designed in 1995 by the army’s Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Corps along with 15 other prototypes.
There are some doubts whether this could have been achieved without foreign assistance. The assault rifle and LMG versions are almost identical, with stamped all-metal bodies and M16-type magazines — both are 832mm in length and have the same effective range and firing rate, given as 400m and 650 rounds per minute respectively. However, the light machine gun is 500g heavier at 4.5kg with an empty magazine.
Locally-based analysts previously believed that the gun was copied from the Austrian Steyr AUG assault rifle but it may, instead, be based on a Chinese shortened bullpup configuration assault rifle first unveiled during the Hong Kong handover last July.
They took sample rifles, inspected them, and then they poorly copy them. GREASY. Now maybe we can buy the bullpup for under $400 Lecta.
Burma Making Small Arms
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By THE IRRAWADDY AUGUST, 1998 - VOLUME 6 NO.4
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TEXT SIZE
Despite economic crisis and simmering social unrest, Burma’s military leaders have continued to purchase more arms and ammunition over the past decade. With over 300,000 soldiers, and no external threats, the generals are determined to expand and maintain the largest army in Southeast Asia.
Burma has begun manufacturing small arms, and possibly ordnance, using a prefabricated factory designed and built by Chartered Industries of Singapore (CIS) in conjunction with Israeli consultants. The purpose-built factory of modular design was produced last year in Singapore before being dismantled after testing. It is intended to produce small arms and weapons up to 37mm in caliber, according to sources contacted by Jane’s Defence Weekly (JDW).
The plant is believed to be a first for CIS, its modular design allowing for future expansion. Israeli consultants who worked on the project are linked with Israeli Military Industries, although it is unclear whether they are current or former employees. The factory’s existence has yet to be formally announced, but documents obtained by JDW indicate that it was shipped from Singapore to Yangon (formerly Rangoon) in mid-February aboard the Sin Ho, a vessel owned by the Singapore-registered company Lian Huat Shipping Co Pte.
The cargo weighed 413,341kg and was packaged in 36m by 12m containers, described in shipping documents as containing a “pre-engineered building system.” It is not known whether this represents the entire facility or whether other elements were shipped separately.
Myanmar Hong Leong Ltd, the shipment’s notifier, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of a publicly-listed Singapore company. The consignee is listed as the Directorate of Defence Industries, Ministry of Defence, which is Myanmar’s state-owned arms and ordnance manufacturer. The factory’s design means that it may have been assembled within weeks, perhaps at Magway, around 400km north of Yangon on the east bank of the Irrawaddy River. The facility may have been erected within an existing structure, such as an aircraft hangar or a warehouse.
The first item being produced is thought to be the EMERK-1, a local design available as either an assault rifle or light machine gun (LMG). These have recently begun to be issued to troops guarding sections of the Yadana pipeline project, Rangoon-based diplomatic sources have confirmed.
The EMERK-1, a bullpup configuration, was designed in 1995 by the army’s Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Corps along with 15 other prototypes.
There are some doubts whether this could have been achieved without foreign assistance. The assault rifle and LMG versions are almost identical, with stamped all-metal bodies and M16-type magazines — both are 832mm in length and have the same effective range and firing rate, given as 400m and 650 rounds per minute respectively. However, the light machine gun is 500g heavier at 4.5kg with an empty magazine.
Locally-based analysts previously believed that the gun was copied from the Austrian Steyr AUG assault rifle but it may, instead, be based on a Chinese shortened bullpup configuration assault rifle first unveiled during the Hong Kong handover last July.
aftermidnight
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Even this 'anti' dink wants in on the action!!
IMO, $800 is a reasonable price for this rifle, if it's not Norinco, the price could be $2000 for the same "low quality and finish".
