Would you feel under gunned?

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Thinking of make a .270 win my primary Ontario "do all" gun. My question is should a 350 yard shot, using 150 gr. nosler partitions on a moose present itself. Would you feel under gunned? Personally I wouldn't. What do you guys think? Please share any experiences you have. Thanks.

Dave.
 
glang1 said:
well i don't want to d:h: But the .270 with 150gr nosler partitions will kill any game you can hunt in north america. You have no worries!
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i killed my first Buck at 338 yards with a .348 Winchester shooting 200 grain silver tips and the bullet went clean through both sides, I was told that could not be done with that calibre so your 270 with 150 partitions will definitely do the job, especially out to 350 yards, it has a lot less drop than my .348 and probably more energy at that distance too!!
 
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It`s like real estate - location, location, location. If you can put the pill in the right spot, you`ll have a full freezer. Those feeling they need a .375 RUM for deer are, shall we say, compensating.
 
The second largest moose I ever killed up here was with a single 130 gr Winchester Silvertip launched by 62 gr of the old surplus H4831. It was years ago, and at such long distance, I am embarrassed to tell the story today.

You won't have any problem killing moose with a 150 Partition, or any decent 270 bullet for that matter!

Ted
 
This is the biggest bodied biggest antlered moose I have ever seen alive. This Yukon bull makes any Ontario moose seam tiny. It took two 150gr noslers at 125 yards. First shot was a 10x ring shot and he was still up so he got the extra holes.

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Your good to go with that combo
 
the .270 is basically a necked down .30-06. I shoot deer with 150gr in my -06 up to 350 yards and it devestating. Since you'd be shooting a slightly smaller diameter bullet, but the same weight, I would be inclined to think that it would be arriving on target at the same if not a higher velocity that a 150gr from an 30-06. It should retain equal or more energy on impact. Now, I realize a moose is not a deer, but from the effects I've seen on deer, I am sure it would do well on a moose. That being said, I load 180gr for moose for the "just-in-case" frame of mind. Also, I've never seen a moose (in a legal hunting zone) that was more than 100yds away.
 
Myself, I wouldn't use a 270 for moose. It's a great deer/antelope gun, marginal elk calibre.

My advice, if you want "one" gun, you want a 30-06. No more recoil, much more versatile, and more energy at the receiving end, where it counts.

The op asked for opinions, that's mine.
 
Ever fire a light Husky in 30-06 and the same in 270? I guarantee the -06 kicks a lot harder!

That being said, the 270 is more than adequate for moose as long as you don't expect miracles. Within 400 yards the 270 with 150 partitions will be a lethal and good choice!
 
I think that a 150 grain partition out of a .270 would qualify for one of the legitimate all around gun/load combinations out there. Right up there with a 180 grain partition out of a .30-06, etc. That load will do its part if the shooter does theirs.
 
1899 said:
Actually JOC wrote that the .270 was not an ideal choice for moose.
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Wish you'd written that in bold, all caps.

The big X-factor in the equation is the OP, the man behind the gun. We don't know how good a shot he is, how much he practices, whether he is ice-cool or wildly excited in the precence of game. My hunch is that he's relatively inexperienced, or there would have been no need to ask the question. My recommendation for a new shooter is to get something with a little more margin for error. If you're not new, then you don't really need anybody's advice.

I've also noticed a lot of people fret about recoil on here. The truth is that none of these standard calibres kick anywhere near as hard as an ordinary 12 gauge shotgun. What do hunters do in shotgun only areas, I wonder. If you can shoot a 12 gauge in cold blood, then you can handle a lot more gun than a .30-06.
 
9.3mauser said:
I've also noticed a lot of people fret about recoil on here. The truth is that none of these standard calibres kick anywhere near as hard as an ordinary 12 gauge shotgun. What do hunters do in shotgun only areas, I wonder. If you can shoot a 12 gauge in cold blood, then you can handle a lot more gun than a .30-06.
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It's funny how so many people are about recoil when it comes to rifles -- they convince themselves that they're afraid of something that lives largely in their imagination. For sure, recoil takes a bit of getting used to as one steps up in performance levels -- but how is it that we become so fearful of something that is simply a shove? A hard kicking rifle may want to break your concentration, but does it really (REALLY) hurt you? The second after the shot, there's no pain, no bruising, no anything. So what was there to be all up in arms about? When a person realizes this, and is prepared to work through it with a good bit of trigger time at the range, the issue of recoil in most calibres quickly becomes a non-issue.

Myself, as a largely self-taught shooter, I came to this realization the hard way. There was a time when I thought a .308 Win kicked too much (in a Rem 760 with that god-awful stock and no recoil pad). These days, I'm quite comfortable shooting full-house loads in a .375 H&H and a .450-400 Nitro Express, including group shooting from a bench. All it takes, truly, is shooting practice. But sadly, most hunters somehow think that practice isn't needed.

And you're quite right about the 12 gauge comparison. Subjectively, even the .450-400 NE kicks no more than my Mossberg 500 loaded with 3" mags. If you can shoot a shotgun, you can shoot just about anything else...
 
Some guns "shove", some guns "kick". 30.06 is pretty much my tolerance level. Besides, keeping the butt-end of your stock "tight" to watch your shot + follow-up shots... Tenderness tends to ensue as no stock is truly ergonomically correct... YMMV, of course.
 
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