Would you shoot Buttons???

[cdngunner]

7.62mm, here we go again! Nice cut and past job! The point of that was?

Rationalize away all you want. Shooting a tame animal is a gutless morally void act. It is not hunting.

Bi Mike, hunting isn't a sport? Hunters spend millions of $$$ every year because...?

You know what? I give up! I'm waving my white flag! ...BOOM!

I thought I would include a deffinition for you in case you forgot what hunting is REALLY about

WIKIPEDIA

Hunting is the practice of pursuing animals for food, recreation, trade or for their products. In modern use, the term refers to regulated and legal hunting, as distinguished from poaching, which is the killing, trapping or capture of animals contrary to law. Hunted animals are referred to as game animals, and are usually large mammals or migratory birds

It is totally amazing how some people are totally out of touch with reality.

Hunting came about because people needed to eat. And I dont think things have changed much.

Your attack on hunting shows your intolerance for other people and their beliefs.

I guess people who raise rabbits and chickens and other animals for food are also gutless, morally void people.

You would go far in organizations like PETA, I'm sure you might even make it to vice-president or president.

Its people like you who take hunting and make it a "sport" taht offend so many non hunters. Your the reason organizations like PETA can exist.

I'm done with you too, your dismissed!

 

[Mumptia]

Shooting a tame animal is a gutless morally void act.

It is not hunting.

The animal shouldn't be tame your arguement has no premise. The fact that it has a ribbon is a moot point.

If it is not bred in captivity it is wild, hence legal to shoot.

Like I said before, it might be in bad taste, but harvesting it is legal and morals have no place in this argument.

 

[Woodsman]

No premise? ...says you. We live by morals...at least some of us do. Others are VOID of them.

If you can put ribbons on an animal, it is TAME. Shooting a TAME animal is LAME ...and morally void. If you cannot see this, then put the horse blinders on and shoot!

...and saying something shouldn't be what it is, doesn't justify your own lameness.

 

[Mumptia]

No premise? ...says you. We live by morals...at least some of us do. Others are VOID of them.

If you can put ribbons on an animal, it is TAME. Shooting a TAME animal is LAME ...and morally void. If you cannot see this, then put the horse blinders on and shoot!

...and saying something shouldn't be what it is, doesn't justify your own lameness.

he,he

It doesn't matter if you can put ribbons on a "legal to shoot animal" it legal to shoot.

By saying we are morally void, you are putting a label of right or wrong on the topic of shooting a legal animal.

Shooting a legal animal is not right or wrong; it just is. Personal judgment is redundant in the eyes of the law

Like I said, shooting that deer might be in poor judgement but according to the laws that tell us what is acceptable to do, shooting it is ok.

By the way, what the heck is up with the name calling?.

This is a discussion not a personal attack.

Just beacuse I don't agree with you doesn't mean you can't have an opinion (without the name calling of course) but if it makes you feel better, flame on.................

 

[bone-collector]

you know we actualy went through this a few years ago, the bardge guys had a pet moose for 3 years , nice young bull, the bardge crew painted his antlers orange and panted PET on the side of him, some fellow from down south wound up shooting him during open season, the war was on, now for the legal sides of it #1 it is illegal to obtain or own wildlife in BC without special permits so therefore the moose did NOT belong to the crew BUT ethicaly and we all know ethics is a LOOSE word and to each there own,

now to end the story, the bardge being privatly owned and operated under contract can make up there own rules so now NONE of us may cross the lake to hunt there anymore due to the shooting of there pet moose, AND seeing the bardge crew lives on the lakeshore they have gotten the government to STOP all hunting and shooting 5kms before the lake because they have there wives and kids there and claimed it a safety issue , so maybe shooting buttons is 100% legal but think of the repercusions it may have down the road

and realy why would we want more anti hunting crying in local papers and how bad of people we realy are yada yada yada, do unto others as you would want others to do unto YOU!

 

[Mumptia]

so maybe shooting buttons is 100% legal but think of the repercusions it may have down the road

Fair point, but in your case why wasn't the moose reported?

You and your party are taking the brunt of a situation that would have never been if the barge owner had of left nature alone.

Same with the button buck.

Frustrating to say the least.

Kind of getting a nice gosling, putting a nice collar on it and naming him "Honker". After he matures he gets shot while landing in a field and then giving the hunter #### because he shot a wild animal that might have been a pet because it had a collar.

Silly

 

[bone-collector]

oh the moose was reported and a sh!tstorm came of it as alot of folks drove all the way out there just to see it and pet it and love it and..... I dont take the brunt of anything , I could care less either way I personaly wouldnt have shot it, something about orange antlers on my wall just dosnt look right in the end you can argue its legal and everything but you cant stop a land owner or a group of them from banning you from ever hunting there again pretty simple decition I would think

 

[Mumptia]

I dont take the brunt of anything

I should have know better

orange antlers on my wall just dosnt look right in the end you can argue its legal and everything but you cant stop a land owner or a group of them from banning you from ever hunting there again

True enough. No arguements

One bad appple spoils................

How'd they manage to get the DNR to shut that area down? Complaining isn't enough when you are dealing with the gov't

 

[dw]

something about orange antlers on my wall just dosnt look right

They would look good on your mud bogger though.....

 

[bone-collector]

dont get me wrong I know its illegal as hell to own a wild animal and I dont think I would kick a guy for shooting a critter someone thought was there pet, and if folks are so dam worried about there pets then get a skunk or a dam porcupine no one wants to eat them haha

oh and the mud bogger is hemi green and black so NO orange just wouldnt blend in ! lmao

 

[Woodsman]

cdngunner, recreation = sport. I am intolerant on shooting a TAME animal. I hunt too! You guys are off on all kinds of tangents because I oppose the shooting of a tame animal. Goes to show, if you're not 100% behind all forms of shooting (I have real trouble calling this hunting...funny Wikipedia didn't mention shooting tame animals), you're dismissed and ostersized.

I've heard "»You're dismissed", "a true Woodsman would be more sensible", "out of touch with reality"....you know what? Go ahead and shoot. You all are morally just fine. We just don't share the same morals. Ask yourself this: Would a non-hunter share your morals here? Wise up. It's crap like this that will stop all forms of hunting. Then where will your laws be to justify poor behavior in face of others? We are the minority. With the comments and justifications like I've heard here, we're all well on our way out of our fine past time.

 

[Gibbs505]

Somebody shoot buttons and put this thread out of it's misery!

 

[Johnn Peterson]

And we wonder why the 'Anti's' have the strength and following they have.

 

[cdngunner]

(I have real trouble calling this hunting...funny Wikipedia didn't mention shooting tame animals), .

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No, but it did mention pursueing animals for food. Last time I checked buttons would fall under the category of both animal and food. Hunting is the process of putting food on the table. Any sport was created by the aristocrates 100's of years back, who did not have to worry about where their food came from. If yu want to be a socialite, go for it. I'm not and I like my food no matter how hit gets to the table.

You are going don a slippery slope.
Next youy'll be saying;
- its only hunting if you shoot running animals
- its not hunting if your on a bird farm
- its not hunting untill you've tracked it for three days and drank its pis and ate its ####.

It's one thing to say you don't agree with it, thats fine. But to hide behind your computer and more or less SLANDER the people that dont agree with you is another.

IT IS HUNTING. Period. Maybe not yur style of hunting, but it is still hunting, and as such deserves your respect, or at least your silence.

I don't think that TROPHY huntign is for me, fine. If some one else craves it and follows the laws, go for it. I'd probably even like to hear the stories of the great chase and see the pictures.

Its not your opinion, its your intolerance and name calling that has got my hair up. An guess what, some of us rednecks here actually dislike intolerance.

 

[Woodsman]

Cdngunner, you're hilarious! Here we go again! No I won't be going down your "slippery slope" of delusions and made up nonsense from the top of your head. Trophy hunting? Who's talking about trophy hunting? Lay off the crack pipe buddy.

Slander and name calling? You're ridiculously way over the top buddy! I haven't called anybody any names on here, but you sure are making it tempting. It's ok for you to lamb baste me, but hey I'm supposed to give you: "My respect and silence"!!?? Are you for real?

And another thing buddy, me "hiding"? Are you calling me a coward? You know jack about me and I don't hide from anyone. From what I can see, you're the intolerant, slanderous, and condescending...."individual" on here.

However, I am manly enought to admit it. I was harsh in my statements... wasn't I? ...and I am certainly intolerant... to a degree! But wasn't this fun?!!! Some of you "boys" got your camo panties all twisted up and in a bind! I had a great time! I expected long lengthy replies and some of you put in a good show! This was better than trolling for trout! I caught my limit in no time flat!

Peace. Amen. Auf Wiedersehn. Au revoir. Shalom.

 

[cdngunner]

Is he really really gone???

Can this thread die now?

Who caught who?

 

[fogducker]

Is he really really gone???

Can this thread die now?

Who caught who?

ya jesus let it die......i just saw the final vote.........and it said bambi dies.
so with a head shot...wayyyyyyyyy far from my truck(about 4 yards) i got meat

 

[Daskal]

I'd rather read another 10 pages of the moral ramifications of shooting Buttons than another post about who #### on who's property.

 

[bone-collector]

Somebody shoot buttons and put this thread out of it's misery!

Im closer Gibbs only 2 hour drive from BUTTONS


now Woodsman, did Wikipedia mention the capturing of wild animals to tame them to be illegal in BC? your jumping on this whole ethics thing when everyone here who has been here for a few years has already been through it, everyones ethics fall differently and as long as they fall within the law so what, it is ILLEGAL to own wildlife in bc, if it is in a LEGAL hunting zone then its fair game simple as that , besides that it has been proven time and time again that taming a wild animal is not a good plan, how many people have been attacked by "TAMED" wild animals ? from hybrid wolves to deer and elk every year someone somewere gets injured by buddies bestest new friend that would never hurt a flea..yea right sooner or later buttons becomes a 4x4 and gets horny and his little world of eating from someones hand turns to spearing a kid wearing the wrong axe sprey at the wrong time ? I am not taking anyones side here just saying think about the whole issue.

and no the antis dont have a hayday over things like buttons at least not all of them cuzz we all know buttons will eat there crops and hippies arent happy without crops

 

[Woodsman]

Please see above as I summarize my comments on this subject: "Peace. Amen. Auf Wiedersehn. Au revoir. Shalom"

You're flogging a dead horse...or was it a tame deer? hehehe...I'm not commenting anymore on this. See pages 1-22 where somewhere in there this was already discussed.

P.S. "Wakkypedia" is cdngunner's repertoire of "knowledge". Not mine. For further info see the Homer(doh!) avatar.