WOW...So M305's seem to suck out of the box.

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Greetings,

Was seriously looking at getting an M305 shorty for myself and my brother-in-law, but after reading the posts on here I don't seem so excited anymore. I am not interested in having to tear apart my rife to make it work. From all the posts it seems like a lot of work to get these rifles working correctly.

If I am wrong let me know. I am always willing to be edumacated LOL. Now, I am not afraid to take firearms apart. I have stripped and put together every firearm I have owned, but I just want something to work out of the box. Is that so much to ask for something I am paying my hard earned money for? Let me know how these things work with NO tinkering as I am not really all that interested in doing it.

Thanks,

Matt
 
This board is filled with guys who are enthusiasts...they tinker because they like to tinker.

My M305 ran fine out of the box (after a thorough cleaning of course) and I am sure that yours will too.

That does not mean you can't make it better, tweak it to make it more suitable for a specific task, or play with it for ####s and giggles...but my experience is that they are a fantastic value out of the box.
 
From what I've both read and experienced, that is not my impression. Mine has run flawlessly, right out of the box. I've changed the stock, and added a scope mount and scope, but that's it. I may modify it further, if I end up keeping it, but as it is, it's perfectly adequate - no functional problems, and reasonably accurate :) I may well sell it down the road, as it's not really "my" kind of rifle, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, IMHO :D
 
Paden Full said:
Greetings,

Was seriously looking at getting an M305 shorty for myself and my brother-in-law, but after reading the posts on here I don't seem so excited anymore. I am not interested in having to tear apart my rife to make it work. From all the posts it seems like a lot of work to get these rifles working correctly.

If I am wrong let me know. I am always willing to be edumacated LOL. Now, I am not afraid to take firearms apart. I have stripped and put together every firearm I have owned, but I just want something to work out of the box. Is that so much to ask for something I am paying my hard earned money for? Let me know how these things work with NO tinkering as I am not really all that interested in doing it.

Thanks,

Matt
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They will work fine out of the box, if the gun does have an issue its your choice to send it back for another one. How ever if you do not like dissasembling rifles do not buy any semi auto rifles period because they all require strip ,clean and lube on a regular basis (every time you use them is ideal)
 
effinggoof said:
This board is filled with guys who are enthusiasts...they tinker because they like to tinker.

My M305 ran fine out of the box (after a thorough cleaning of course) and I am sure that yours will too.

That does not mean you can't make it better, tweak it to make it more suitable for a specific task, or play with it for s**ts and giggles...but my experience is that they are a fantastic value out of the box.
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X2 , They are a very good battle rifle right out of the box , very dependable and easy to work on.There are a few issues with some of them but those are minor faults and easily fixed . And if you want you can take the rifle and do some changes to it . I really enjoyed learning about the rifle as I went about customizing and improving them. Lots of help on here for ya.
For the money they cant be beat , ammo isnt cheap though (Federal 150 grain works good) so if you dont reload you may want to consider getting into it as well if you shoot often.


I recently bought the Shorty from Canam and I found the quality better than my other 2 .
 
Tengoo said:
My shorty has functioned perfectly right out of the box [after cleaning and etc.]. I'm going to do a few upgrades, but for casual shooting it's fine as it is.
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Especially for a bear or truck gun! They just cannot be beat! Yup, most of them out of the box after cleaning are gtg, but sometimes you get one with goofy geometry!

:cheers:

Barney
 
I have owned 3 of these rifles , all 3 ran great out of the box and i could hit clay pigeons with ease at 100 yards ... i know that i seen a 2007 norinco with a barrel out of index , but i think the newer batches dont really have this issue as much .. if your buying one online ask the dealer to check the barrel index by looking at the feed ramps on the barrel to see that they are level and true in the receiver . I found the 2009 polytechs to be the best out of the box , the only thing i upgraded was the rear sight ..
 
mine cycled fine right outta the box.. (never fired it and an expensive ebr stock later sold it unfired..didnt have time to shoot then :(
 
My wood stock m305 funtions 100% reliable, can hit a man sized paper target at 400 yds(once I learned how to use the sights) and is generally a very fun gun. I shot my 1st 3 gun match with it last summer and I just love it.
 
Let me share my experience:

I got one of the "project" rifles, but after doing some research like you are first; I knew what I was getting in to prior. I got one with really bad sights. The front faux birdcage was indexed to the right. (bullet impact was 1 foot left and about 1 1/2 feet low at 50yds:eek: )

The Gas cylinder also had some extra steel where the front band was supposed to seat flush with it and the black Polytech stock was about ~1.5mm too long (impacting and warping the front band.)

I planned on turfing the Commiefornia legal birdcage anyway so this wasn't a big deal but I still had to file the heck out of the front sight post to get the drop compensated for. (I want the indecies on the rear to actually mean what they say. 1=100 yds etc.)

With regard to the other fixes; a little filing around the inside of the ring of the front band accomodated the bad casting I have for the gas cylinder and the tutorial on here about sizing the stock and ferrul was very helpful with getting that job done.

Now it consitantly hits a small pie plate at ~185 yds with the windage dead centre and the elevation set for 400f:P:2:

Guess what's getting replaced next?;) Hint; I'm not filing that front post anymore, If you saw how much I took off just to get it on paper you would be shocked.

I have only spent $110.00 for extra parts and as I said, I was looking for a project so I was not upset with what I got.

The best way to look at buying these rifles is; it's kind of like roulette and you are only betting either black or red.;)
 
95%+ of them are functional when new. If not, that's why the vendors offer warranty.

The tweaks people do are to improve their accuracy or to accept accessories they want to run.

One thing to caution you on though, if you want to run optics and you want the optics to run well, expect to spend almost as much as the rifle costs for a proper mount and rings.
 
DO NOT ASSUME THEY WILL WORK FINE OUT OF THE BOX!

These things do need a thorough inspection and function testing.

The shorty I just purchased was not shootable out of the box. That's fine though. I read the reviews, recognize the issues and accepted the flaws. My intent was to have M14 smith correct the issues and "accurize" the gun anyway.

If you decide on one you WILL be rolling the dice on whether or not it is a shooter out of the box. Of the three I own, two were shootable out of the box although they were both in desperate need of tuning.

If you accept the (possible) flaws and decide to put either $$$ or elbow grease into it you will end up with a neat little shooter.
 
It should work fine out of the box (no matter what you get or how much you spend things can go wrong)

I guess its about expectaions, its a cheap rifle but well made and shoots 2-4 inches at 100 depending on the person.

I have spent more money on upgrades and making the rifle look the way i want than the purchase price but have gone back to shooting with irons.

My advice, buy one and shoot it stock for a while (assume you know to check for safe function as you have owned other firarms and read other threads)
 
I love my new truck gun... ;)

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JimboJones said:
Let me share my experience:

I got one of the "project" rifles, but after doing some research like you are first; I knew what I was getting in to prior. I got one with really bad sights. The front faux birdcage was indexed to the right. (bullet impact was 1 foot left and about 1 1/2 feet low at 50yds:eek: )

The Gas cylinder also had some extra steel where the front band was supposed to seat flush with it and the black Polytech stock was about ~1.5mm too long (impacting and warping the front band.)

I planned on turfing the Commiefornia legal birdcage anyway so this wasn't a big deal but I still had to file the heck out of the front sight post to get the drop compensated for. (I want the indecies on the rear to actually mean what they say. 1=100 yds etc.)

With regard to the other fixes; a little filing around the inside of the ring of the front band accomodated the bad casting I have for the gas cylinder and the tutorial on here about sizing the stock and ferrul was very helpful with getting that job done.

Now it consitantly hits a small pie plate at ~185 yds with the windage dead centre and the elevation set for 400f:P:2:

Guess what's getting replaced next?;) Hint; I'm not filing that front post anymore, If you saw how much I took off just to get it on paper you would be shocked.

I have only spent $110.00 for extra parts and as I said, I was looking for a project so I was not upset with what I got.

The best way to look at buying these rifles is; it's kind of like roulette and you are only betting either black or red.;)
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Just outta curiousity, did you not adjust the rear sight before you filed the front post? I know that when I first got mine, I had to be way over the 100m(8 click) setting but I worked my way up on the rear sight and once I was where I wanted it to be, I started filing my front post down so that 100m zero would be 8 clikcs up from bottomed out.
 
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