Wrong powder. What can I do?

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I jsut bought myself a reloading setup a coupla days ago, and didnt have a shopping list except for what was in my head, so when I asked for powder, I somehow got mixed up and got imr4198 instead of 4895. I didnt even notice until I had loaded about eight rounds, and now I cant find any info whatsoever on this powder with this caliber. Can anyone help me out with finding max load info on this powder/caliber combo. I dont want to fire these rounds without knowing more about what kind of pressures to expect. The shopping list in my head somehow forgot a reloading manual, too.

Gonna be a couple more reloading questions from me here in the future fer sure.
 
Get a manual, or two, and read them all the way through before you go on!
I dont mean read all of the loading data, but at the begining of most of the manual is a section on HOW to reload. There is a wealth of stuff in there that will keep your guns, and YOU in one peice. Also some stuff that may make it easier in the long run.....
 
Sorry for neglecting to mention the caliber. I am loading 17 Remington. I thought I had mentioned it. I have actually done tons of reading in manuals and on the internet on reloading as well as some actual hands-on stuff with my friend's equipment, so I am not a total newbie. I am getting a kinetic hammer from my friend so if I have to pull the bullets I will be able to. Now that that is cleared up, can we now segue on to advice on what to do about powder? I am seriously considering just setting the 4198 aside and buying a pound of 4895, but if I can use the 4198 I will.
I will be loading 220 Swift and 223 rem. in the future, so I might be able to use it on something else.
 
it's pretty hard to speculate, since you're not giving bullet WEIGHTS- anyway, the source on the net says 17 grains of 4198 to start and 20 for a top end- the heavier slug starts at 18- i just used the yahoo search engine and typed in 17 remington
 
I dont mean to be rude, but I'm starting to get the feeling that you are in far too much of a hurry for your own good.
First you bought supplies and started loading without getting AND READING a manual.

Then you ask for info without posting your chambering.

And then you dont tell us what type and weight of bullet you intend to use.

Back up a bit, take a breath, and do this right. We will help you out, but you have to approach this properly.
 
tootall said:
I dont mean to be rude, but I'm starting to get the feeling that you are in far too much of a hurry for your own good.
First you bought supplies and started loading without getting AND READING a manual.

Then you ask for info without posting your chambering.

And then you dont tell us what type and weight of bullet you intend to use.

Back up a bit, take a breath, and do this right. We will help you out, but you have to approach this properly.
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No offense taken, but actually what is happening here is more like I am posting questions in a hurry without taking the time to think about what I need to know and what you need to know to tell me what I need to know. There, now I got myself confused with that sentence, but it seems to work somehow.
Like I said before, I have some experience and I have read a lot about reloading. I am loading 17 remington ammo with 25 grain molyed hollow-points. The only thing different from when I used my buddy's equipment is the powder, which I switched simply because the stuff he had was more expensive than what I am using now. I plan to switch to 20 grain v-max bullets when my current stock runs out just to try em out and compare accuracy. I have also been experimenting with resizing other brass (223 rem and 204 ruger) for use with the 17, mostly to see how well I can get the job done. I'm going to have some questions about that in the future, but right now I want to concentrate on figuring out my powder issues before I get deeper into that.
 
"...the stuff he had was more expensive..." That's no reason to change powders. If you do, you'll have to work up the load again.
No need to buy another powder if you don't want to. Hodgdon gives 15.0(3463fps) to 16.2(3692fps) of IMR4198 for a 25 grain bullet in the .17 Remington.
 
as with anything else, you have to shop around for powder pricing as well- or BUY A KEG
 
sunray said:
"...the stuff he had was more expensive..." That's no reason to change powders. If you do, you'll have to work up the load again.
No need to buy another powder if you don't want to. Hodgdon gives 15.0(3463fps) to 16.2(3692fps) of IMR4198 for a 25 grain bullet in the .17 Remington.
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Working up a load isn't an issue because most of the bullets we loaded for this rifle we wasted while trying to figure out a massive accuracy issue that I posted about some months ago, where we eventually figured out that the barrel had bulged about two inches in from the bore. So we had just begun load development lately and hadn't got anything impressive.
Thanks for the numbers you posted, but the only other reference I found had a minimum load of 17 grains. What was your source for those numbers, book or on their website? Those numbers seem like they would work for a 17 Fireball.
 
Why don't you pull the bullets from the 8 loads and trade another reloader for the powder you want? You must hunt with other reloaders?
 
17asleep said:
...I somehow got mixed up and got imr4198 instead of 4895. I didnt even notice until I had loaded about eight rounds...
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I'm sorry but this scares the hell out of me. How do you not notice you have the wrong powder? You should be staring at the powder name/number every time you touch the can. How are you going to keep from killing yourself when you have 20 varieties of powder on the shelf?
 
Hey don't pick on the guy. Sure, it was a dumb mistake, but we all make them. Lets hope he realizes just how serious a mistake like this could have been and learns from it.

Smart reloaders check everything twice before they start, than check again as they go through the motions. Mistakes happen, try not to make a deadly one.

Newbies, and even oldtimers, read the manual, and refer back to it, years down the road. Yes, even those beginner instructions once in a while.
 
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