WSM-which one?

" Nothing shoots flatter, hits harder or is more accurate than a Weatherby."

So where are today?
What of the Three Big WSM are the top choices or are we still d:h:
I'll toss this out there and see where the chips fall...
" Nothing shoots flatter, hits harder or is more accurate than a Weatherby." :nest:
The Weatherby name spans 65 years of firearms history and when the WSM last that long maybe we will have a clear winner.

Seriously though, I like my .325 WSM, but that is because it is in a Ti A-Bolt and fits me well, is a pleasure to pack and not to brutal on the shoulder when touching off those 180 grn Accubonds from Winchester Man.

Dont take my opening statement to seriously othr than the 65 years of history, because no matter what one or two will say there are 10 guys behind who will try and prove otherwise.

Shoot'em if you got'em Boys.
Rob
 
I went out an bought a WSM, i ended up with a 300 but i would try a 7mmWSM no worries if it werent basically dead in Aus esp factory ammo...which was areason i went the .300 route, im not reloading for it.

maybe if i didnt own a 270win an several other Calibres, the 270WSM might be that one gun....
Not the biggest Fan of the 300WSM, but am a fan of the light rugged rifle its packed into!

reloading for a 7 wouldnt be too much effort although frankly, i cant b bothered for now!
 
also on the 325WSM, cousin had one... he couldnt handle it for #### an shot it around the target n missed animals due to recoil!
i was at the end of my recoil threshold with 180gr an the factory Abolt rubber pad, upgraded padan dropped bullet weight to 150, much better!

a heavy pill in .325 will stop big animals
 
As already said above:

The 300 WSM will be the most popular, but I have the 325 and like it a lot, if you look at the ballistics of it, it ain't a bad round at all, though more difficult to find brass or ammo, but I live in the city so it's easier for me.
 
My son works in retail firearms sales... he said the trend is AWAY from the 7mm WSM... the 270 and 300 WSM are fairly well established, but the 300 beats the 270 in sales by a good bit... the 325 WSM is always going to be a fringe player but for those looking to bump up from a standard 30 caliber magnum... it is a caliber that they recommend... given the versatility of the 300 WSM and .30 calibers in general... it is by far the front runner... just a retail expert opnion.
 
I have a 300 WSM in a Vanguard. Excellent chambering, but does nothing that my 308 Normas and 300 Wins can't do.

As far as 7mm Short mags go, they are essentially "dead", but I have a nice compact 700 in 7 SAUM, and I love it.
From my research, it would appear that tyhe 7SAUM is somewhat popular with the long range target crowd, and I can relate.

Mine is very accurate with 160 grain ABs., and also shoots many other weights well.

Those who diss the 325 Short Mag are "sour grapes" types, and fail to realize the potential of this fine 8mm offering.

Regards, Eagleye.
 
I like both of my WSM's. My 300WSM shoots 180 accubonds and 168 gr TTSX's. My 7mm WSM shoots 150 gr Federal Fusions and 154 Hornady Interbonds.

I know they don't do anything better than the 300 win mag and 7 Rem Mag, but they certainly don't do it worse either!

To be honest, I think it'd be fun to have both a 300 SAUM and 7mm SAUM as well.
 
Eagleye said:
I have a 300 WSM in a Vanguard. Excellent chambering, but does nothing that my 308 Normas and 300 Wins can't do.

As far as 7mm Short mags go, they are essentially "dead", but I have a nice compact 700 in 7 SAUM, and I love it.
From my research, it would appear that tyhe 7SAUM is somewhat popular with the long range target crowd, and I can relate.

Mine is very accurate with 160 grain ABs., and also shoots many other weights well.

Those who diss the 325 Short Mag are "sour grapes" types, and fail to realize the potential of this fine 8mm offering.

Regards, Eagleye.
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Yup, Id even say the .325 is the king of short mags.


Well, not really, but I like my 8mm WSM
 
Actually, the short mags are getting a lot of love in this thread, I was starting to think they were the caliber people love to hate.
 
From where I work, the 300 is more popular than the 270. The 7mm is probably following the 7mm SAUM which Remington stopped chambering their own rifles in only 6 years.
If power is your object, then the 300 WSM. If recoil conscious - the 270.
I saw two men at the range one day working up loads on 300 WSM's. Both had purchased Remington 700's in 300 WM and rebarreled.
While watching one, he put 3 rounds in an inch at 200 metres. Velocity recorded at 3080 with a 180 grain bullet and then declared "I'm done and ready to go hunting". The long action was purchased to allow the bullets to be seated out further.
 
IMHO for a non handloader the 300wsm is the best. If you handload the 325 is the best. The 325 is the only wsm that offered anything new or filled any gap
 
horseman2 said:
From where I work, the 300 is more popular than the 270. The 7mm is probably following the 7mm SAUM which Remington stopped chambering their own rifles in only 6 years.
If power is your object, then the 300 WSM. If recoil conscious - the 270.
I saw two men at the range one day working up loads on 300 WSM's. Both had purchased Remington 700's in 300 WM and rebarreled.
While watching one, he put 3 rounds in an inch at 200 metres. Velocity recorded at 3080 with a 180 grain bullet and then declared "I'm done and ready to go hunting". The long action was purchased to allow the bullets to be seated out further.
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Now that reasoning is a complete mystery to me. They bought .300WM so they could get a long action, so they could re-barrel the guns to chamber a .300WSM, so they could seat the bullets out further, so they could get performance closer to the .300WM that they had when they bought the guns. I just don't get it.
 
The whole deal with these is that they are a new design, using todays technology to get the best efficiency out of a case, all done by computer generated data. Its evolution at its finest. Changing the shoulder angle to a specific (30 or 35 degree) did wonders, not to mention the higher pressures.
However, there isn't much gain, some are redundant, but regardless, they sell and they work. I dont think there are too many newer (less than 40 yrs) small arms cartridges that have really improved on whats already there by a remarkable margin.
If one looks at Ballistic tables, the 270wsm is marginally better than a regular 270 - better by mere inches at 500yds, but 7mmwsm over 7mmRM, and 300wsm over 300wm, both are negligable or +/- 2 inches at 500yds.......
For the added recoil, is it worth it? Some say yes, some say no, personal preference i guess. I shoot my 308 based guns way more when plinking.

I have two wsm's, a 300 and a 325. IMHO the 325 is the only one that is different, and one gains a caliber that helps fill one of the largest caliber gaps of all the hunting cartridges available today in N America. Yes, it isnt easy to find factory ammo, yes it is expensive, but I load for it which negates the argument of availability. Plus its cool!
The 325 has some serious knockdown power. 200gr NAB at 2950 is what my rifle likes (some loads clocked over 3000), which translates to a big whallop! And I love my 325!!!!
 
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wsmnut67 said:
here's some stats you can send to your outfitter and educate him abit.
325 wsm 200gr mzl3861 200 2956(-3) 300yrd 2572 (11.3) 400 2229(-25.6)
338 win 200gr mzl 2960 200 2502(3.4) 300 1975(-13.1) 400 1539(30.5)
this is from winchester at 100 yrd zero I don't no why a 338 is so much better than a 325 wsm?
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325 wsm 200gr at 3861fps WTF??? I don't think so! And a 338 with a ballistic silvertip will do 2108fps at 400 yards a 200gr power point will do 1862fps at 400y. I think you may be alternating velocity and energy in this "educating" post. I sure hope you don't do tax returns for a living!

Edit. OK I figured out what you did here. The values you listed are in terms of energy. With the exeptioin of the 2960 for the 338. That is in fps.

So the rest of the values are for the 200gr Power point in 338 win Mag and 200gr which has a BC of .308. That is the worst bullet choice you could make. Then you compare it to the 325 WSM with a 200gr XP3 which has a BC of .5. That is the highest BC bullet offered. I think your info may be a bit skewed.

338 225gr Accubond ct BC .548 values fps (energy in ft-lbs)
0 yards 2800 (3913) 100 yards 2634 (3462) 200 yards 2473 (3053) 300 yards 2319 (2683) 400 yards 2169 (2349)
4.3" more drop than the 200gr XP3 in 325 WSM and about an inch less drift
 
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