Wssm cartridges.

The Hornady 223WSSM is a dying cartridge that burns out barrels and causes terrible throat erosion. :unsure:

I have owned all the WSSM line-up at one time. I liked the 243WSSM and the 25WSSM. I eventually sold them all. Got tired of waiting for the barrels to cool while shooting in the summer months. They were though very effective cartridges.:)

The friend I sold the 243WSSM to kills his elk every fall with a Winchester 95 grain XP3 factory ammo. The lady that bought my 25WSSM also harvest's an elk, bear, and deer with it (most years). She likes it as the recoil is very reasonable.:D

Great cartridges that I don't see sticking around. One should stock up on brass, as well as loaded ammo.;)
 
243wssm with a fast twist barrel could be neat...

I'm surprised to hear ammo is being made though, I thought they were all dead years ago. Good for those who have em.
 
woodchopper said:
I would be interested in the 25WSSM some day when I have time to build one and get set up to reload for it.

should be about perfect for deer.
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I have one of those, a Win 70 Coyote. I quite like it, does everything my 25- 06 does. If I come across another of those mini Win 70 actions sized for the cartridge, I will definitely build my self a tast twist 243 version. I like these little cartridges. - dan
 
woodchopper said:
I would be interested in the 25WSSM some day when I have time to build one and get set up to reload for it.

should be about perfect for deer.
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100 Grain Swift Scirocco launched @ ~ 3200 fps from a .25 WSSM is my daughter's favorite rifle for deer out to the far side of 350 yards.

She really likes it as the recoil is so mild she says she can see the bullet impact through the scope.
 

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I played with a Rem 700 in 25 WSSM back in the 2000s. While I liked its velocity and mild recoil, the rifle was inconsistent, producing sub_MOA groups on some days, and much larger patterns on other days. While some of this can be attributed to the shooter (as I freely admit that I am not the best shot out there), I was able to produce sub-MOA groups in other rifles on the same range sessions... :unsure:
In the end I sold the rifle as the inconsistent accuracy didn't make me want to take it hunting.

After trading off the rifle, I learned about some of the rifle issues that were coming to light that were contributing to the inconsistent performance; poor crowns. The new owner had learned of this and reported improved performance after having it recrowned. He loved the rifle. Was glad for him.
I wasn't overly disheartened, as the rifle wasn't left handed, and I had a LH Rem 700 rebarreled to 250AI and am happy with it. And it does feed smoother than those extra short, fat cases.
 
BlackRam said:
I played with a Rem 700 in 25 WSSM back in the 2000s. While I liked its velocity and mild recoil, the rifle was inconsistent, producing sub_MOA groups on some days, and much larger patterns on other days. While some of this can be attributed to the shooter (as I freely admit that I am not the best shot out there), I was able to produce sub-MOA groups in other rifles on the same range sessions... :unsure:
In the end I sold the rifle as the inconsistent accuracy didn't make me want to take it hunting.

After trading off the rifle, I learned about some of the rifle issues that were coming to light that were contributing to the inconsistent performance; poor crowns. The new owner had learned of this and reported improved performance after having it recrowned. He loved the rifle. Was glad for him.
I wasn't overly disheartened, as the rifle wasn't left handed, and I had a LH Rem 700 rebarreled to 250AI and am happy with it. And it does feed smoother than those extra short, fat cases.
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Interesting. Did you barrel it yourself? - dan
 
Thunderhog said:
Interesting. All my WSSM rifles were Browning A-bolts, and all of them were tack drivers.

In saying this, I can see crowns with abnormalities definitely being an accuracy issue. :unsure:
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I too have had good performance from Brownings over the years; both A Bolts and X Bolts. This was the first I ever had an accuracy issue with.

I know the guy who had owned the rifle from new before me, but did not realize it until afterwards.
He and a good friend of his, both bought the same rifles at the same time in the 25 WSSM. Both had the same accuracy issues, and ultimately they both sold them. (They were on the used rack at the LGS when bought it, and I chose the one due to its slightly better condition.)
We had run into each other at the LGS gun counter while waiting to talk to the gunsmith about other rifle projects on the go, when we got to talking about the 25 WSSM. The gunsmith overheard our conversation when he came out of the back, and he gave us the update on those rifles, as he had redone the crowns on both rifles for the next owners and told us that this had improved the accuracy issues for them and they both still had those rifles. He also told us that he done a number of other WSSMs for the same reason, over the years (not all, but more than a few). He could not say if they were all from the same year of manufacture.
 
BlackRam said:
I too have had good performance from Brownings over the years; both A Bolts and X Bolts. This was the first I ever had an accuracy issue with.

I know the guy who had owned the rifle from new before me, but did not realize it until afterwards.
He and a good friend of his, both bought the same rifles at the same time in the 25 WSSM. Both had the same accuracy issues, and ultimately they both sold them. (They were on the used rack at the LGS when bought it, and I chose the one due to its slightly better condition.)
We had run into each other at the LGS gun counter while waiting to talk to the gunsmith about other rifle projects on the go, when we got to talking about the 25 WSSM. The gunsmith overheard our conversation when he came out of the back, and he gave us the update on those rifles, as he had redone the crowns on both rifles for the next owners and told us that this had improved the accuracy issues for them and they both still had those rifles. He also told us that he done a number of other WSSMs for the same reason, over the years (not all, but more than a few). He could not say if they were all from the same year of manufacture.
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Interesting, thanks for the update.

It all makes total sense now.

Do you wish you would have kept the 25 WSSM now?
 
Thunderhog said:
Interesting, thanks for the update.

It all makes total sense now.

Do you wish you would have kept the 25 WSSM now?
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No, as stated in other post, the rifle was not left handed, so I don't miss it, and my 250AI (and 257 Roberts rifles both) feed smoother.
While the improved case efficiency is a nice to have, the other cartridges are fun to own and shoot too!

Edit: no worries...got distracted while typing this reply and did not see your update
 
dan belisle said:
Just read Hornady is producing 223 and 243 loaded ammo. Hopefully some brass as well. Haven't seen anything for the 25 wssm yet, but it's a simple modification to use the 243 cases. Just a fwiw for people that have them (like me). - dan
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It’s ODD. it’s not listed in order with the other cartridges but if u put in in as a request it comes up
No VELOCITY (fps) is listed at all for either . 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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