He meant that other world war two. In 1958 Britain invaded Itself. During the night a squad of British paratroopers were dropped just outside the dreaded British camp. It was a complete surprise to the British when the British ambushed them. There were many casualties. Mainly British.it's unclear who was the decisive victor but we know for sure that Britian lost.
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...Your all crazy..
Thats why I love this Forum. :lol:
Thats why I love this Forum. :lol:
Actually, misrepresenting an item on Ebay is a serious offence. I ain't gonna bother reporting him, cuz it appears this is just a case of the stoopids rather than a willful attempt to misrepresent something (otherwise he probably wouldn't have posted the pic with the date!)
Dumbasses are everywhere!!! :lol:
Dumbasses are everywhere!!! :lol:
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Don't forget the British invasion into the US in the early 60s. Of course, that was rock music, but Ninja Airborne commandoes (who would use this coat) may have been involved, and were just too stealthy to be observed. Perhaps that is what happened to Buddy Holly and the rest of them on the airplane; the commandoes got them, in order to make room for the British musicians. And that is why the photos are now X'd out, because the British realized we were figuring it all out.
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I'm probably wrong, but I;ve always felt that the American tendency to claim that majors wars only really started on the date the USA jumped into the fray has somehting to do with their primary schol system. I think teachers would rather teach the American version of things than to have eager and naive students ask things like "but teacher, if Hitler was so evil, why didn't we try to stop him when WW2 started, back in 1939 with Britain, Canada, France and the rest instead of waiting until December of 1941 to do anything?" :shock:
I don't know what would be worse, the question, or the honest answer the teachers would have to give. "but dear, America's best interests weren't served by fighting in 1939. We had to make all that money by selling things to the beligerents (mostly the allies) until they ran out of cash. Of course, in 1941 we were attacked out of the blue despite our OBVIOUS neutrality and had no choice but to protect ourselves..."
And don't even get me started about how the Ford truck factory in Germany was the ONLY vehicle factory in all of Germany that was never hit by a single allied bomb throughout the war... what a coincidence!! :shock:
I don't know what would be worse, the question, or the honest answer the teachers would have to give. "but dear, America's best interests weren't served by fighting in 1939. We had to make all that money by selling things to the beligerents (mostly the allies) until they ran out of cash. Of course, in 1941 we were attacked out of the blue despite our OBVIOUS neutrality and had no choice but to protect ourselves..."
And don't even get me started about how the Ford truck factory in Germany was the ONLY vehicle factory in all of Germany that was never hit by a single allied bomb throughout the war... what a coincidence!! :shock:
Historians differ on that part somewhat; a lot of them think that the fact the US discovered that Germany was urging Mexico to invade them was the reason. The real reason is probably some sort of combination of the two.Claven2 said:April of 1917 marked US entrance into WW1. The sinking of the Lusitania, it is rumored, had something to do with it
For bonus points, what was the date of the first significant ground action fought by US troops?
Always an interesting question, but I tend to think it has more to do with the human tendency to always portray yourself in the best light - unless you've been so obviously caught out that you decide instead that you look better if you grovel indefinately.Claven2 said:
The history of both world wars - where many Americans become immediately outraged if it is suggested that they weren't the primary factor in the winning of those wars - is but one example. We purchased a new home in Whitefish Montana recently, and I've been conducting an informal social experiment since then. The topic of Iran and "why do they hate us so much" comes up fairly frequently in discussions about the middle east. I have probably asked nearly 200 Americans in the last little while if they knew how the Shah and his secret police the Savak came into power.
Not ONE had a clue. More importantly, not ONE knew (and many continued to refuse to believe) that the US government engineered the overthrow of a Parliamentary democracy that existed in Iran - with the attendant hanging of its' prime minister who had just been Time's Man of the Year. None knew that the US had planned and executed a coup that saw Iranians deprived of the vote and elected representatives - something America claims they stand for in the world. It wasn't exactly in line with the American Constitution, Bill of Rights, and lofty principles like "all men are created equal".
Now I don't know about you, but if somebody took away my vote and gave me a dictator and secret police who tortured and murdered in its' place, I would be pretty pissed off. And I wouldn't get over it in a week or two... I would be amazed if Americans would be more forgiving towards Iran if the shoe - impossible as that may be - were on the other foot. I've talked to Americans who would be quite happy to nuke the entire Middle East, just over 9/11 and would feel quite justified in doing so.
That doesn't make Americans dumb, stupid, evil, or anything else. It makes them human and illustrates the failings of our educational system and our media. Canadians are no different.
For example: I didn't know of the internment of Canadians of Japanese descent and the theft of their lands and property until I was out of high school - and some of the camps were only a few hundred miles away. I didn't know about Doukhbour children being forceably taken from their parents - something that again happened only a few hundred miles from where I live and at about the same time I was growing up. And a host of other things that, really, aren't so very different than how the US version of its' history is a bit skewed. No, none of THAT was mentioned in school...
They make sure their kids get the sunny picture of America as a beacon of freedom - with the exceptions like having to teach the civil rights movement because its' hard to ignore what went on in that "free" country until well after WWII. And we make sure our kids get the sunny picture of Canada as a gentle, compassionate country totally free of hate, prejudice, or anything else that doesn't fit our national image. We wouldn't do anything like steal people's property or their children... not us!
War is GREAT for business. Ever consider that maybe the Vietnam war went on so long just because companies like DuPont and the rest were making an absolute killing (no pun intended) selling war materials to the government of the day? Look at just how much fuel and munitions was expended in any one day - industries were not suffering during the Vietname war. Industry at that time had pretty powerful reach into government - just as it does today.
