XCR 10000 round range report **pic heavy** and long winded...

9x19p

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In late Feb. 2013, I wandered over to the Black Rifle forum from the precision forum, to have a look. Thanks a frikin bunch! I had to get me one.
It had to be non-restricted, take AR mags, and be either .223 or 7.62x39.
On April 13, 2013, I left International Shooting Supplies with a new XCR, black, in 7.62x39.
Round count July 6, 2014 was 10060 rounds.


My first day out was with factory MI buis, I don't care much for them. The rear sight has a lot of play, and I'm a pretend precision shooter, I like glass.

Anyways, first day out. 2 x 5 rnd mags, 720 rounds of ammo, and no clue what I was doing :).
My first impression was good. 95% clean machining, very little thread lock run off that I'd heard about, and a very strong sturdy feel to it. The weight takes some getting use to for a newb, it's a heavy rifle. It's not the weight that's the problem, it's the balance or lack off, it's a muzzle heavy rifle. I had minimal wobble between the upper and lower and figured that's normal anyways.

The manual says break-in on gas setting 4, so I ran ~60 (iirc) rounds on 4. I wasn't impressed with the snappy feel it causes, and brass was flying out of sight. Within my first couple mags, I had a nice little burst fire, it was from too much snap and a poor grip. I read the manual and figured I'd get the gas as low as possible, right away. I noticed an immediate difference in the overall feel of the rifle, it was smoothing out. I did most my break-in, prone or kneeling.

I didn't buy the rifle for moa shooting, I bought it just for fun and to make some noise ;). After break-in, I was shooting ~2 moa, I was good with that.

The reason I chose 7.62x39 was cost, I knew I'd be putting lots of rounds through it. My cleaning process is simple, hot water, dry, and oil. I call it cleaning but it's not, I'm neutralizing the corrosive residue. I spray the rifle as soon as I get home. Strip the gun, muzzle in the sink with the op-rod and gas valve, spray with water. I fully strip the rifle and clean it every 2000 rounds, I keep track in my ammo log, and it's exact.
I've said this before and I'll say it again; my rifle was free. 10000 rounds @ $.19/rnd is $1900. Had I gone .223 at $.45/rnd, it would have cost $4500 for ammo. The difference is more than the gun cost. Listen, it worked on the wife ok...
I also chose x39 for versatility, I carried the XCR for deer season, and will again this fall.
I've shot the rifle in 2 black rifle matches, and did ok. A good sling is your friend. Mine cost $20 at the airsoft store. :redface:

This is what 10000 rounds of corrosive surplus does to an XCR.








I'm shining a flashlight on the barrel for this one, it shows a little better. The holes in the gas tube line up to this spot.


The bottom corner of the bolt cam shows some wear.


This pic looks way worse than bare eye, there's no sign of pitting on the bolt, though the pic looks like it.


I won't bore you with much more, but these targets were shot my last trip out. One is 20 rounds at 35 yards shot as fast as I can. The other is 5 rounds at 100 yards, shooting quickly.


After 10000 rounds the finish has held up very well. The rifle shoots about 2.5-3 moa. The play between upper and lower has increased some, a little more wiggle. The trigger is quite nice, she broke in good.

I've got a short list of failures in 10000 rounds.
Day 1, I induced 2 x fte running the gas on 1 too soon.
At 800 rounds, my op-rob bent a couple degrees. I monitored.
At 3800 rounds, the bent rod cracked about 300 degrees around. I fired 100 rounds like that, no issue.
The screw holding the safety together, backed out a full turn before I noticed it. Just once.
On one of my cleanings, I found a broken firing pin spring. 1 loop broken.
At 8000ish rounds, the gun locked up hard. I dumped 120 + rounds, tube was glowing, and it locked, I thought I broke her. I had to kneel down and slam the rifle in to my front bumper to open up. I field stripped, oiled, kept on firing. I went through another 300 rounds that day.
Not a gun failure but a user fail, I've dropped this rifle in a very fast moving river, 3' under water. Not a scratch. Ya, I didn't come out as good.

I mentioned I don't shoot for moa, I bought it as a gongbanger. This is how I like to play with my XCR.

The bottom line, I'd buy another in a heart beat. This is my favorite rifle without question. It's my go-to, carry all, gongbanger, noise maker, deer rifle, and sometimes, cozy night friend.

Have a good weekend gunnutz, I'm going shooting now.
 
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I bought the op-rod from Wolverine, the firing pin spring and a bunch of mags too. I also bought a handful of recoil buffers, still using the oe.
Guy is awesome to deal with.
I ordered the rod on a Tuesday and had it on Friday.
 
Nice! Since ARs are restricted, XCRs are my favourite black rifle. Mine was X39 before I got it and the only rust was a tiny spot on the gas tube. It also sat in someones safe for 2 years so it was probably just humidity. Its now .223 and runs great! But of course these rifles are junk because no military uses them :rolleyes: Yeah f*@kin right!
 
I love the little what's an ACR insert there haha....I don't have nearly that many rounds through mine maybe 800 now but I've loved every pull of the trigger. When I go to the range I used to try and decide which two I'd bring now I only have to decide which one I'm bringing with the XCR.
 
Hey Skin, not sure what you're talking about. Probably a YouTube glitch ;).

I used to pack 4,6,8 rifles in the bush, always. I'm content taking just the XCR sometimes now. Like I said, it's my do all. I can play with my gongs that hang at 630 yards, or play mall ninja, running through the bush shooting paper plates and clays.
I have the most fun just dumping mags and watching the pretty glow.
 
great write up! I love my XCR, im on my second crate of Nork 223 ammo.
Thank you. Awesome, how's the gun running, and on what setting? I'm opening another crate tomorrow.

Love seeing people shooting the sh!t out of their rifles, thanks for sharing.
Thanks, I love shooting the sh!t out if it, and I'm gunna keep on keepin on. :)

subscribed! ive only got 1000 rounds into my L. good report!
Thank you too. How's yours running, and what setting? How long have you had it?

Totally ! :cheers:

Anyone interested in buying the rifle?
I'll throw in a couple mags, and an airsoft scope.

LNIB $3000

;)
 
Had it for a few months now and besides the odd stove pipe with norinco shes been flawless running on 2. I love this rifle!
 
Hey zeuce, after 1000 rounds you should've been through any stove-pipe issues. How's it run on gas 3?
Something else to check is the ports in the gas valve. I've had my #1 port carbon up pretty good, closing the port comparable to the S setting.
 
well 9x19p, your post here has inspired me to look for a 7.62x39 kit for my XCR. have the .223 and the 6.8, but I think I need a little 7.62 ammo to run through it.
 
Hey zeuce, after 1000 rounds you should've been through any stove-pipe issues. How's it run on gas 3?
Something else to check is the ports in the gas valve. I've had my #1 port carbon up pretty good, closing the port comparable to the S setting.

Funny you should post this, i was bored last night and decided to check the torque on all the allen screws and for ####s and giggles took the gas port out, guess what i found? Carbon carbon carbon!
 
well 9x19p, your post here has inspired me to look for a 7.62x39 kit for my XCR. have the .223 and the 6.8, but I think I need a little 7.62 ammo to run through it.
It feels good to be inspirational ;)

Funny you should post this, i was bored last night and decided to check the torque on all the allen screws and for ####s and giggles took the gas port out, guess what i found? Carbon carbon carbon!
Good stuff, hopefully it's cured.


Ok XCR nutz, in the op, second picture;
What haven't I taken apart from the rifle?
I'm not talking about the buffers, which are also still attached, or the stock adapter.

Anyone....
 
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Just put first rounds out of my new XCR, all I can say is FA. No issues to report a side a massive grin. By the way due to lack of communication with my darling she purchased a used XCR . And the grin is even bigger, Accuracy tests next By the way I did blast off about 300 rounds of Norinco and ss109
 
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