1.25" with hand loads and 4X scope. IIRC load was 23 gr H335 under a Hornady 55 gr fmj, WCC case CCI 400 primer. The fast stock is difficult to sandbag, the F93 I had fit my rear bag nicely and didn't have a half assed cheek weld. Then again that rifle rarely ever got shot off the bench, that's not what it was designed for.