XCR accuracy

vince514

CGN Regular
Rating - 100%
41   0   0
Is still possible that an ADMIN to move this thread in the BLACK AND GREEN MILITARY FORUMS please? my mistake.

REALLY considering buying one probably an xcr-m in 308.

I wanna use it mostly for target shooting up to 200 yards.

I would like to know how accurate they are / can become with upgrades.

Should i get the heavy barrel version?

Weight isnt a problem for me unless rifle is "15 pounds".

How heavy they really are with HB?

Share your opinions knowledge and experience please.

Vince514
 
Last edited:
Lots on the search function for this. Things to keep in mind this platform is not built for accuracy. It’s a battle rifle with loose tolerances.

What ammo are you using? If it’s not premium or reloaded specific for this rifle it’s not going to be accurate. If your willing to spend the money on good ammo it’s almost a waste as the rifle will be limited by its design.

It’s a great battle rifle that will run fairly reliable even when dirty. For its design it does a good job. It’s not light.... it’s not easy to carry around all day. It’s a great plinking rifle. If you want something semi auto that’s more accurate I suggest an FN F-nar it will be more accurate perhaps not necessarily.

It depends if you get lucky and get a good one. If your just shooting for fun great if you think it’s going to be a sub moa rifle your going to be disappointed. It’s not a great paper puncher and from what I’ve seen not consistent.

Cheers ps it’s a good rifle I’d rather try out that nea 308 that’s non restricted or spend less and settle for an F-nar or Springfield m1a
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-Gas-Setting-Questions?highlight=Xcr+accuracy

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...7-XCR-M-accuracy-issue?highlight=Xcr+accuracy

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...Keymod-Barrely-alignment-issues?highlight=Xcr

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1471905-XCR-Range-Report?highlight=Xcr

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1454551-XCR-M-Range-Report?highlight=Xcr

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1394302-13-quot-XCR-M-Thoughts?highlight=Xcr

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...26-XCR-M-amp-Wolverine-on-TFBTV?highlight=Xcr
 
i found they are pretty good. not the best but good.

heavy barrel is the "target" barrel. the light barrel is "meh" with decent ammo (PMC for example) 2.5 moa is pretty typical, and with good ammo/ handloads 1-1.5 is a very realistic grouping expectation

the HB version is heavy... it was heavy enough it was a deal breaker for me for hunting.
 
1st of all sorry guys, didnt mean to start a thread in the black and green PRECISION rifle. Thought i was in the black n green military.

2nd : i never thought to use the search function for the accuracy question. I wouldnt believe there was that many range report here.
Looked on google though before asking here, been on multiple forums in the US.

OK now after reading a few threads... : looks like few xcr used to have problems with barrel alignment>?

I dont know much about this platform when speaking on their generation > Keymod, M-Lok foreends.

Question is : if i buy a new generation one, is the alignment problem still an issue?
 
You either get a good one or a bad one, I forgot to mention if you wanted to swap barrels and use .243 this is the rifle to have. Ps I know it sounds like a #### move to say use the search half the time it don’t work lol. Gen one use locktite and a torque wrench to the specific torque it specified and you should not have a probalem with the barrel retention I believe that’s xcr-L problems as opposed to the xcr-m model which is also available in .243 so perhaps you run a hb for the range and a light 243 for hunting it’s not a terrible rig as people have said
 
I personally found the XCR design to be extremely front heavy.
I would imagine with a heavy barrel it would be ungodly off balanced as a rifle used for any purpose.
I'm basing this off personal experience with the XCR-L. Accuracy was not bad but not great. Way better than a Tavor but my Mini14 582 series outshoots my old XCR with ease.
If you're looking to just shoot paper at out to 200 meters it can definitely do that.
It has an adjustable gas system which is awesome. The XCR design has it's flaws. It's pros are excellent ergonomics, extremely reliable with any ammo, adjustable gas system, very easy to strip and clean, acceptable accuracy, very well made/well machined, takes AR/AR Pistol mags, parts support is available and not overly expensive.
Cons for me were the balance with the gun being so front heavy (I had the older quad rail upper though) Price is high but you can get them cheap used on the EE.
I have never shot the .308 version but I am assuming the caliber change would not have an impact on any of the above.
For me it was just too high a sticker price for what it did. I was definitely not blown away by the accuracy of it to be honest and this is coming from a guy who thinks that 3 MOA is just fine in a semi auto so take it for what it's worth.
 
There are no barrel alignment issues over all, those were odd reports. Get the latest generation which is keymod, the latest have improved chambers and new fast 3 stocks, if you order from Wolverine you'll be getting the latest.

The older quad rail generation was very front heavy. If you're target shooting (which this isn't a precision rifle) heavy barrel is fine, hiking or hunting you want a light barrel for sure. The light barrel makes a very big difference in balance and weight feeling. Light barrel heats up and cools off quicker, heavy barrel it takes longer. Hot barrels == opening up groups. New generation XCR is MOA (in some cases better) capable when hand loading or with quality ammo the gun likes.

Make sure the barrel and gas nut are torqued appropriate, this will affect accuracy.
 
I had one with the heavy barrel and a spare light barrel. I found myself using the light barrel all the time as the heavy one was no more accurate for me. The light one really improved the balance of a heavy rifle.
 
I found the fast stock horrific for precision shooting... I replaced it with one of the adaptors with a normal tube and an ATI stock with adjustable cheekpiece and it helped a lot.

It is not a target rifle though... it was much more fun to annoy my buddy in the next lane with the sound of the darn thing then attempt to group for accuracy...
 
I had one with the heavy barrel and a spare light barrel. I found myself using the light barrel all the time as the heavy one was no more accurate for me. The light one really improved the balance of a heavy rifle.

Same - I see almost no difference between the heavy and light barrel. Both are .308 in my case.

What REALLY made a difference was using the latest gas system. I had one with the old gas system, and I was getting 6" groups at 100m with surplus 7.62x51 ammo. That shrunk to 3" with the new gas system (installed by Wolverine, new models all have the new gas system). With handloads, I'm down to about 2" groups.

That all said - if I turn the gas off completely and operate the charging handle for each round, with my handloads, I can get between 1" - 1.5" groups. But then it's not a semi-auto when using it that way of course...

Note I still use the old FAST stock. Apparently a fixed stock, or the newer FAST stock can improve accuracy further. That's my next major purchase I figure.
 
I had one, it was horribly inconsistent. 3-4" groups at 100 yards were the norm.
Purchased an lmt mws at the same time and it was at .75" groups consistently.
 
I get MOA ish with my M (hand loads with good brass and bullets) but haven't run anything other than cheap amimo through my L (2-3 moa). The newer gens have an improved trigger and had system that's substantially better than the early runs which made a big difference for me. It's up to you whether you want to go through a load workup but I'm glad I did. In my opinion it's much more useable when you feed it what it likes.


YMMV.
 
I loved mine but sold it because its weight meant it didn't get used like it should.

Still really miss the gun. Sold with some regrets. In .223 it was 1.5 moa with m855.
 
I have an XCR-M with the heavy profile barrel. Accuracy is pretty good: I shoot mine to 600m (prone) with surplus ammo on man sized steel silhouettes. I'm happy with it.

Heavy? Yes but has been reliable with every type of ammo including the cheap copper washed norinco steel cased stuff.
 
I have the older railed version in 7.62x39, with barnaul fmj I get around 2" groups with a 2moa Reddot at 100yards.
 
Last edited:
I've shot a few XCR-L and one -M model, none of them were what I would consider accurate but they were all reliable. The only one I had issues with I believe was due to the owner not knowing how to assemble it correctly, the gas system pretty much just fell apart while we were messing around with it, after I put it back together it worked fine the rest of the afternoon. I'm not sure what happened or how he assembled it but it wasn't the fault of the gun anyway.
None of them are capable of 1 moa and until I see some actual proof where someone shows some targets showing 10 or more shots in a row I don't care if people say it's a 1 moa gun or not, it is not. One lucky group a day does not make a rifle capable of 1 moa.
The XCR-M I shot was a friends rifle and it was a heavy barrel model, with handloads he was able to get it down to about 1.5-2 moa consistently if you shot slow and didn't let the barrel get warm, if you let the barrel get warm the shots are all over the place. This tells me they are supplied from factory with a cheap barrel that is not properly stress relieved and that added to the poor (from an accuracy standpoint) barrel retention design adds up to a rifle capable of consistently producing groups of 1.5-2 moa when using handloads or premium ammo and taking your time between shots.

This is not a bad thing though, the rifle was designed to be a battle rifle not a sniper rifle. It does what it was designed to do quite well and now that they've ditched the silly quadrail forend it's a much better balanced rifle. The rifle is more than accurate enough for hunting deer or coyotes at less than 300 yards. It is not a good rifle if your intended use is sitting at a table making holes in paper though, you will be frustrated with either the large groups or how slowly you have to shoot in order to shrink those groups.

I've been watching the XCR since it was only an announcement, I waited to purchase when they were released then couldn't bring myself to buy one with all the early issues, as they evolved I was tempted again but ended up buying other non restricted semi's and just shooting XCR's owned by friends and waiting for RA to get it right, now that they seem to have gotten it right (other than in the accuracy dept) I still pass by them because my ACR is in my opinion a better rifle in pretty much every way. For my black rifle shooting when I want something bigger than what my ACR or AR180B have to offer I have a Modern Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor and an M305 that will shoot tighter groups than an XCR-M, my M305 is a full custom with Krieger barrel so I'm not saying that a $600 M305 will shoot better than an XCR-M.
If you want a semi auto battle style rifle with accuracy potential there are better choices.

If you like sitting at a table shooting holes in paper you'd be far better off spending $1500 on a nice bolt action and having a rifle capable of sub moa.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom