xcr falling apart

Armedsask said:
It's my job. I get paid to sit on here all day and piss people off.

I only complain when it is warranted. I too was all for the XCR, that's why I bought one. I was unimpressed after I had a chance to strip it down and inspect the internal workings.
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And thanks for doing that, if you didnt complain we wouldn't know about the issues, we need to hold high standards to firearms.
 
Granted it seems like there are some QC issues especially with early production numbers but how many of the first production run of any product are problem free? Maybe they should have better in house QC but I don't know if that's unusual or not.

Is there even any other similar product to compare it too? A small manufacturer producing a new rifle that is available to the public at an early date? How bout the AR? geez, the M-16 didn't have any problems now did it?

I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on the internals and how they measure up to the competition but like most of the people out there that own one (of course those with a problem complain the loudest but they aren't a majority) I like mine. I've only just broken it in cause I spent too much on guns and don't have any left for ammo:( but I've shot 400 rounds without any issue or anything falling off and it seems quite accurate and the ergo's are good. Maybe I'll feel differently after 10000 rounds but I'll cross that bridge when i get to it.

I think the problems are overblown, just imho.
 
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For me yes.

It's not that much more than a run of the mill AR, it's less than you could find a piston driven AR for and the key for me, it's non-restricted. Any other non-restricted black rifle is close to $1000 more (excluding the AR-180 which I don't consider being in the same league).
 
Kano said:
So the same question goes out, is the XCR worth $1895?
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Obviously it depends on who you ask. I think it is, others think it is, I doubt Armedsask would think so - and there are probably plenty who agree with him. Who is right? Probably both conclusions - it depends on what you want. I'm no machinist, so I can't comment on the internal workings much - just that they work for me; but I trust Armedsask when he says he didn't like what he saw and that it isn't worth it for him. There are so many variables, nobody can answer for you. How expensive is $1895 to you? What are you buying guns for? The list is endless. Good luck with concensus (that doesn't even work for global warming).
 
I bought my XCR in January, fired 20 rounds, and had to ship it right back because it was piercing primers. They told me it would be a two-minute fix. So now its May... this has been a long, long two minutes. No money back, no rifle, just a lot of waiting. $2200 should have bought me a rifle that worked. I don't know if XCRs are good or not, but I know mine is a piece of junk.
 
well when you use your customers for R&D and to see what works and what doesnt...it isnt a sign of a quality brand. 2K is alot of money and it should buy something that worked.
 
I said and always say with american guns you have to wait 2-3 years for teething issues. Especially with robarm. US companies treat there customers like beta testers.
 
Scarecrow said:
LMT has been subcontracting parts for how many years? But again the AR isnt a new design by far!
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Well the MRP isnt subbed out and im happy with mine. And as long as the parts are milspec and properly assembled who cares anyways... Point is that Robarms seems to have issues with everything they make..not to mention the long wait times... this from a product that is priced higher than its competition..which would be a standard AR... What do you get for the premium? Sure its nice that its non restricted, but this gun was made for that reason...
 
Look at the US made SIG 556, garbage. Look at AR180B, plastic garbage. Look at Robarm M96, garbage. Until the G36 buying european was always the way to go. Swiss arms and IWI are the only good non-restricteds in circulation.
 
I watch, I read and Scarecrow is one of the few I respect and listen too......we'll said Scarecrow, No matter how hard I wish the XCR was the one I wait for it to be proven. Alass it still remains to be seen.
 
it was not an XCR but the other robarm gun the m96 or something you know the stoner clone. It was just a general comment on robarm built quality



drvrage said:
I don't mean to bring you into disrepute, but I question the possibility of this statement. The bolt locks into the barrel extension when the gun is ready to fire. If the barrel came out, why are you not dead from the explosion? Moreover, how did this happen twice? Maybe I am misunderstanding what you said. I would appreciate some clarification.

As for my XCR, it was a super reliable shooter so far with about 400 rounds through it. No fail to fire, feed or extract. No jams. I did have two bullets with pierced primers, so Terra at Robarms said the firing pin hole in the bolt face needed to be chamfered a bit so it wouldn't cut holes in primers when the pressures maxed out. I did it myself in 20 seconds with a Dremel.

As for bolt dying...no way. My extractor is locked in tight when I got it used off of 223Medic. Maybe he did it, but it is good. I do love the rifle. Well built, very simple (my first black gun and field stripping and beyond is so super simple. I found the gun to be very intuitive maintenance wise.) My gas block is flawless. The trigger is heavy and creepy, but will supposedly smooth out significantly as it wears in. However, for those who complain about the trigger, need to remember that he SCAR program wasn't for a benchrest shooter. It was for a combat rifle. Even AR fans always replace the trigger anyways so why is the XCR not allowed a little lattitude. The rifle is damn accurate. Unrestricted is nice for those who aren't near any ranges.

For the money, I would buy another in a heart beat. I'll be getting another one when the .308's come out. The ergonomics are flawless. The design is simple. The construction is robust. Fab QC like with any new production is not 100%, but look at all the complaints coming out of established manufacturers who have been making the same models of rifles for decades. Those who judge the XCR harshly are using a different standard than they do for other rifles.

As for Robinson Armaments, customer service answered all my e-mail's same day with fast friendly and helpful advice. The XCR forums are full of fans as well. Could there be lemons out there? Of course. Just like any other rifle.

I think the critics of the XCR but on a different set of glasses when they judge, because the writing sounds biased to me. I for one am most pleased with the rilfe. In case anyone was wondering it was serial number 12XX. So you would expect a certain settling down period in the fab shop. Mine turned out a winner.
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