XCR vs MR1 build quality comparison ...

JP - you're a great shot, there's no doubt there :)

Heck it could shoot 1/2 moa and I would STILL say that its one of the ugliest darn black rifle out there!

FYI - next time you want to document your shoots and want a witness, I'm in the Outaouais region, where I think you're private range is. Heck I won't even bring any rifles out, just a video and photo camera!

Lets put these 200 yard Mr1 and 800 yards Nemesis rumors to a rest once and for all!

Cheers
Ben
 
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and as such, I prefer the look of the MR1 over the XCR. I considered both rifles and chose the MR1. The price was a big thing, and reports of poor accuracy was another. I use my MR1 as a varmint gun and accuracy was important.

Another reason I went mr1 was the ergonomics. It handled better. The Xcr is very straight and angular. Sort of awkward to hold like an AR. After some attachments (stock and grips) that can be fixed. The Xcr is easy to accessorize, whereas the mr1 is not so much. You need to buy the front tri rail, and the top rail is too short for some optics options.

I haven't shot the Xcr, but after handling it, I liked it, but I didn't like the feel as much of the Xcr, especially when the mr1 was a few hundred dollars cheaper.

As for the MR1 being plasitic, this is true for only the non
Mechanicle parts. The receiver, bolt and gas system are all high quality and durable. And the plastic that is on there is of a high quality as well. I rather hold a plastic hand guard than a metal rail when it's -20 out.
 
I have being shooting since last year with 2 fellows that own XCR, great rifles, great ergonomics, they shoot commercial ammo but should be easy to roll one that shoot sub-moa if they reloaded, but they had a lot of FTF FTE and both had to send them back for warranty work, this is the reason i will jump directly to a Tavor or a Swiss, from my MR-1's to one of them, this should fill the bill, my friends XCR are now alot better since the warranty work but there is still have that occasional trouble occuring, it is very annoying for a rifle over 2000.00 ... JP.
 
I have an XCR-L black FAStock. My favorite rifle by far.

To me personally the look and ergonomics are awesome.
I very much prefer that it is almost all metal.
I have mine equipped with a Leupold Prismatic 1x fixed/red and a MagPul AFG2.
I have had zero problems with the rifle, no FTFs or FTEs.
I use the actual XCR 5rd and XCR pistol 10rd mags though, not the AR15 LARs because the XCR mags are twice the quality and fit of the LARs. I never understand why anyone would try to save $2 on putting a cheap mag into a $2300 rifle.

re:furfaro Cold temperatures are no problem because you normally leave the rail covers on so your hands never contact the metal. Otherwise chaffing your hands on the rail would be more of an issue than the cold.

If I had anything to nag about it would only be that it is a bit front heavy in the Cdn long barrel version, but the AFG2 helps a lot with balancing that out.

My XCR-L is the one rifle that always goes with me to the range regardless of what other rifles I am taking that day, it is just that fun to shoot.
 
great thread, im in the same predicament, XCR-L vs MR1.....

quick question, are there tri rail attachments for the benelli?? I havent seen anything on the net speaking to that and I saw it mentioned a couple post prior to mine. Would it have to be a custom job or are the fore-ends replacements w/rails? (similar to CSA VZ58)
 
the fisher said:
great thread, im in the same predicament, XCR-L vs MR1.....

quick question, are there tri rail attachments for the benelli?? I havent seen anything on the net speaking to that and I saw it mentioned a couple post prior to mine. Would it have to be a custom job or are the fore-ends replacements w/rails? (similar to CSA VZ58)
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www. brownells.com/.aspx/pid=32489/Product/FOREND-TRI-RAIL

There is an attachment that fits over the forend to give you the 3 additional rails.
 
I have fired all makes of .223 and Chinese surplus 7.62 through my XCR and never had a failure to eject or failure to fire. I've fired in excess of 2000 rounds.
 
Haven't seen the tri trail at wolverine for a while although they had the best price at 80. Brownells wants 120. I got mine from p&d in Edmonton for 92. Most benelli dealers should be able to order it for you
 
i just put 200 rounds through my XCR-L (223) today and it worked great, the platform had some issues whent they started out but it seems they have worked most the kinks out, really your best bet would be to find people who owned the XCR and MR1 and fire both and just decide which one you enjoy shooting more, because they are both excellent firearms in there own right
 
I own an XCR - an impulse buy, I didn't have any real intention of getting one, and hadn't done alot of research before I bought it. Since doing so, I've been doing plenty of XCR thread reading on this forum and elsewhere. There have been alot of negative comments regarding accuracy, reliability and the use of locktight with the XCR...

I've experienced none of these issues. My XCR has been highly reliable, more reliable than my Colt AR that had an odd FTE. I've had zero problems with screws coming loose. I notice most of the "lock-tight" comments in this regard are posted by know-nothings who have never held an XCR, never mind shot one. My reading suggests the anti-XCR crowd is a small but vocal minority of disgruntled owners, with a large following of parrots who own rival rifles.

I've never owned an Benelli MR1, but I had the opportunity to shoot one last winter. It FEELS awesome, and shoots very well. I have a Benelli M4, which has very similar ergonomics.

When the MR1 is examined, the quality of manufacturing is very apparent. In fact, after shooting the MR1, I was almost able to overlook the grotesque and repulsive appearance of the rifle. The XCR has the MR1 beat in this category, hands down. Both rifles feel great in the hands.

For accuracy of the XCR vs MR1, I can't comment. I have a "donut of death" ACOG on mine, it shoots quite accurately - so did the MR1 with open sights. I've not done any serious precision shooting with either rifle.

Both are solid rifles, I'd still go for the XCR if I had to choose again, based on looks alone - the performance and quality seem pretty similar IMHO.
 
This is what sucks about wanting a non Remington / Savage / Browning / Winchester / Ruger etc. ... Where I live I can't just drive 5 minutes to a local gun shop that stocks anything that I would want.

I'm headed to Boston next week, maybe those crazy Americans will have plenty of toys I can fondle if I go to the right place.

I think the two biggest areas of concern for me would be the feel of the trigger and the feel of the action.
 
Mr1 is a great gun my friend has one, and man does it shoot nice and very well built, the beauty is in the quality of the gun and how well its made. but yah my original thoughts were yah "uglier then sin". The XCR more my look.
 
michael2258 said:
Mr1 is a great gun my friend has one, and man does it shoot nice and very well built, the beauty is in the quality of the gun and how well its made. but yah my original thoughts were yah "uglier then sin". The XCR more my look.
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I'd go one further; the MR1 actually looks worse in-person. A barrel shroud and different stock would improve it dramatically. Of course, then we'd have the ARX-160... Maybe it's a great gun to shoot, but you still don't want your friends to see you with one. ;)
 
I really don't mind the look of the MR1, it's just "different", nothing wrong with that. Personally I don't like how the XCR's body goes so far back of the pistol grip. I think the shape / profile of the AR is so engrained into our brains from movies etc. that it has just become the standard to compare to.
 
Tikka223 said:
I really don't mind the look of the MR1, it's just "different", nothing wrong with that. Personally I don't like how the XCR's body goes so far back of the pistol grip. I think the shape / profile of the AR is so engrained into our brains from movies etc. that it has just become the standard to compare to.
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If by "different" you mean ugly, then we're in agreement. ;) In truth, the gun looks fine; it's the stock that throws everything off (the ergonomics are fine for a shotgun - less so on a .223). If it had a flat top instead of fixed BUIS that wouldn't necessarily hurt, either.

With respect to the original title, which was build quality - I haven't heard of anything really significant in terms of problems with the MR1. The same can't be said with the XCR. And since the MR1 can be found for around $1k less - that's definitely worth a consideration.
 
Very true, that's why I bought the MR1 in the first place. Like I said, the MR1 is a very nice rifle ... but I am looking at the XCR for the features that I wish the MR1 had.

The MR1 makes for a VERY nice hunting rifle but I'm looking to try my hand at 3-gun so I'll need something a little more ergonomic and with a muzzle break for faster shots on target.
 
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