Yaaarrrrrg!! New Kimber 9mm 1911 4"!!

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prproulx

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Oh why couldn't Kimber have stuck with the standard commander length so we could get these without the ugly stick-out barrel? Why?!:(
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Actually the 1911 was designed to be carried cocked & locked; it'd be very risky to try and lower the hammer with a round in the chamber (which is why the hammer is bobbed - never need to touch it).

Insert mag, chamber round, safety on and you're good to go :)
 
G37 said:
Actually the 1911 was designed to be carried cocked & locked; it'd be very risky to try and lower the hammer with a round in the chamber (which is why the hammer is bobbed - never need to touch it).

Insert mag, chamber round, safety on and you're good to go :)
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Yes, and the original 1911 design featured an exposed hammer that could be manually cocked, too. Geez, now I wonder if that was a design flaw... :rolleyes:
 
Design flaw... No.

Carry over from older days which required the User to manually #### the hammer in order to fire - most likely ;)
 
What about the 1/2 #### feature to prevent the hammer from touching the pin by accident. I have to assume that was made to have a rd chambered but hammer not fully cocked...ya?No?

Oh ya BOOOOOOOOO Kimber...
 
pitdogboy said:
What about the 1/2 #### feature to prevent the hammer from touching the pin by accident. I have to assume that was made to have a rd chambered but hammer not fully cocked...ya?No?

Oh ya BOOOOOOOOO Kimber...
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To get to the half-#### position though you need to lower the hammer, so, there lies the danger; I'm sure someone at sometime in history has slipped and set off a round "by accident" in doing this. Also, when in "half-cocked" mode the manual safety cannot be engaged... so... it's possible with wear that this too could fail and then you might have a problem.

I won't pretend to know why the half-cocked notch exists, perhaps it was more robust at handling drops on the hammer than Condition 2?

I've done a lot of reading on boards from guys who carry 1911's daily and I have never read anything negative about carrying cocked & locked (Condition 1); it's the best and safest way to carry if you are carrying to protect.
 
The half #### has a deeper notch, I beleive it's purpose is to catch the hammer if for whatever reason the sear does not catch on the normal notch (like a squibb round) or that the gun is dropped. Being deeper it will catch the hammer for sure. my 0.02$


G37 said:
To get to the half-#### position though you need to lower the hammer, so, there lies the danger; I'm sure someone at sometime in history has slipped and set off a round "by accident" in doing this. Also, when in "half-cocked" mode the manual safety cannot be engaged... so... it's possible with wear that this too could fail and then you might have a problem.

I won't pretend to know why the half-cocked notch exists, perhaps it was more robust at handling drops on the hammer than Condition 2?

I've done a lot of reading on boards from guys who carry 1911's daily and I have never read anything negative about carrying cocked & locked (Condition 1); it's the best and safest way to carry if you are carrying to protect.
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prproulx said:
4string said:
I don't think mine looks ugly :D

It's not bad I must admit but still...so they made it 1/4" shorter than a commander length. Why?

So mush easier to conceal?

I wonder if they will make up some Canadian versions and who will carry them?
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It shoots completely different with that length. I prefer the way it handles recoil over my 5" TLE II.
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Don't blame Kimber. It is to be a concealed pistol. In these days, 4.25" barrel is a full-sized gun (see other brand names).

What is to blame is the stupid law that does not allow us to have the 4" guns, including 4" revolvers.
 
G37 said:
To get to the half-#### position though you need to lower the hammer, so, there lies the danger; I'm sure someone at sometime in history has slipped and set off a round "by accident" in doing this. Also, when in "half-cocked" mode the manual safety cannot be engaged... so... it's possible with wear that this too could fail and then you might have a problem.

I won't pretend to know why the half-cocked notch exists, perhaps it was more robust at handling drops on the hammer than Condition 2?

I've done a lot of reading on boards from guys who carry 1911's daily and I have never read anything negative about carrying cocked & locked (Condition 1); it's the best and safest way to carry if you are carrying to protect.
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Interesting...Makes sense to me now
 
G37 said:
I've done a lot of reading on boards from guys who carry 1911's daily and I have never read anything negative about carrying cocked & locked (Condition 1); it's the best and safest way to carry if you are carrying to protect.
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Guess that's why the Glock has so much favour then... no cocked & locked feature... if a round is chambered you are ready to go... no manual safety to mess with and take up precious milli-seconds... ;)
 
For the record I'm not blaming Kimber. They are great to us Canadians. I was just venting my frustration at how 1/4" barrel makes this gun unobtainable.

If the CFC regs even said 4" and up was restricted imagine all the nice revolvers and other new semi-auto's we could have.
 
NAA said:
Guess that's why the Glock has so much favour then... no cocked & locked feature... if a round is chambered you are ready to go... no manual safety to mess with and take up precious milli-seconds... ;)
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i find it interesting how people dont want to carry a 1911 cocked and locked, but will carry a gun with no manule safty so easy.
not pointing fingers, it just strikes me as odd.
 
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