Yet Another Rifle Purchase Consideration

babzog

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I've been shooting deer with the SKS but (hunting) ammo is getting hard to come by for it... so thinking of biting the bullet... so to speak :p ... and picking up a proper rifle. Will probably do so come the Christmas season.

Last wed, sitting out in the pouring rain, driving through horrible mud trails on ATVs, my gun, at the end of the day, looked like I picked it up off a battlefield (but it still worked perfectly - Soviets certainly knew how to build a gun). Trouble was, there was water and mud in all those little nooks and crannies that needed to be flushed with WD40. What a PITA - took me over two hours to completely disassemble and clean it! Thinking now that a simple, well-made rifle with a stainless barrel and synthetic stock will work perfectly - rain, mud, who cares? Wipe it off and chuck it in the gun closet at camp and be done with it till the next morning.

Trouble for me is finding one in a left-hand version. Aside from limited choices, the prices vary widely. Remington wants a boatload of cash for theirs, but Browning has a very nice lefty version for a reasonable price:

Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker, Left-Hand

As does Savage:

Savage Weather Warrior Model 116FLSS Left Hand

Of the two, I'm certainly leaning toward the Browning. Beretta has only one model of Sako in a lefty version.. no Tikka for me unfortunately. :( Winchester only seems to have a couple in their line, no stainless/synthetics.

Next conundrum is calibre... leaning toward 270 or 30-06 (both long actions). Thinking that either of those will be widely available, everywhere - even in Nowhere, NFLD - esp the 30-06. Other appealing feature with the 30-06 is the wide range of bullet weights. OTOH, I like the faster speeds and flatter trajectory of the 270.

Guess it comes down to what is overall more effective and authoritative for my needs? Primary uses will be distance target shooting and hunting whitetails. I'd like to go after caribou and perhaps moose one day. I'd be sniping groundhogs and the occasional nuisance beaver too. Don't think I'd purposefully go after bear, but would appreciate good stopping power at my command should I need it.

So... soliciting opinions, thoughts, suggestions, etc for brands, calibres, etc. Will have time to do my homework and plan to handle some of the guns before making a purchase.. probably go to Gander Mountain in the USA or BPS (but it's further away) to check out what's available and what I'd like.
 
Keep in mind that stainless rifles need a lttle care, although they aren't as intensive as blued rifles..

I'd get a 270 More than enough power for all your needs and a great deer cartridge. A 7-08 wouldn't be a bad choce, either.

Not a fanof ethe r those guns, but that is just me...:)
 
babzog,

Ruger offers the M77MII in a stainless/laminate for us lefties. Chambered for both of the cartridges you mentioned.

Tikka has a stainless/synthetic version of the T3 coming soon. Actually, Epps in ON has a few in stock. They should become more widely available shortly. Lot of calibers offered.

FWIW, I went with the M77MII chambered for 25-06 Rem. and am really happy with it. Very reliable and accurate.

25-06 Rocks by the way.:)
 
Gatehouse said:
I'd get a 270 More than enough power for all your needs and a great deer cartridge. A 7-08 wouldn't be a bad choce, either.

May I inquire why you would prefer the 270 over the 30-06?

Gatehouse said:
Not a fanof ethe r those guns, but that is just me...:)

There isn't a lot out there in left-hand guns, let alone stainless/synth versions. I'd love a T3 but they don't make a left-hand version. What others do you suggest in the < $1000 range?
 
LittleBoyLefty said:
babzog,

Ruger offers the M77MII in a stainless/laminate for us lefties. Chambered for both of the cartridges you mentioned.

Tikka has a stainless/synthetic version of the T3 coming soon. Actually, Epps in ON has a few in stock. They should become more widely available shortly. Lot of calibers offered.

FWIW, I went with the M77MII chambered for 25-06 Rem. and am really happy with it. Very reliable and accurate.

25-06 Rocks by the way.:)

Well... was at the Tikka website and they don't mention the left-handed guns... interesting! I like the Ruger too... not so keen on the laminate stock, but I like the quality of Ruger firearms (can't believe I forgot about them!). Will keep both of those in mind!

Why do you like the 25-06, BTW?
 
I would take a Ruger over either of those rifles...

As for cartridge selection, most of your quarry is deer, not moose. You really don't need more than a 270.

Anyhting in the order of 7-08. 308. 270.25-06....they are all good deer choices. A 30-06 will kill them dead, but it's just a wee bit more recoil.

:)
 
Why do I like the 25-06? For deer on down............Fast, flat, accurate, low recoil, whats not to like?:) Although to be honest, factory loads might be a bit harder to come by in 'Nowhere, NFLD' than the .270 or 30-06. Time to start reloading.;) :)

Regarding Tikkas, here is an old thread that might interest you-
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94327
I might end up with one here shortly. Now if Ruger would make a .223/.22-250 in stainless...........
 
babzog said:
Thinking now that a simple, well-made rifle with a stainless barrel and synthetic stock will work perfectly - rain, mud, who cares? Wipe it off and chuck it in the gun closet at camp and be done with it till the next morning.

I went through the same decision process earlier this year, because I wanted a rifle to take in my skiff on the salt chuck once in a while. I went with a Ruger mk11 stainless.

Taking a brake from calling yesterday sitting in the snow getting rained on sideways from time to time, I looked the rifle over carefully. It was completely drenched with water and snow but the rifle sheds water well and there's no 'nooks and cranys' on the design any where. The inards stayed dry as a bone.,.

I don't really like the look of stainless/synthetic and decided from the get go not to baby this thing. If it gets beat up I simpley won't care and I kind of treat is as such :redface: But with around 15 days of hunting mostly in the mountains under its belt already there doesn't seem to be any battle wounds yet :confused: They're a simple rugged rifle..
 
Modern bullets make most rifles do their job effectively. A 270, 280, 7mm08 are just NOT too light for moose sized animals. An accurate rifle in competent hands will do perfectly well. If you can handle heavy recoil then by all means proceed.. Practice practice practice..
I ran into a hunter this year who was using a 338-375?, (375 necked down to 338 if I remember), the bullets looked rather imposing to me and belonged on the wing of a p44). I asked why? He said his wife wanted his butt protected from bears and other dangerous game..:confused: Asking how it shot, he said that he sighted it in with 6 bullets and that was enough due to the recoil and the cost ($6.50 a round) but it shot really well out to 500 yards. Really :confused: I'm now thinking "how would you know if you only shot 6 bullets". Ballistically it would perform at 500 yards but unless you practice that what the heck would you even try it for?
A big bore weapon in the wrong hands is in the wrong hands and just as ineffective as a 270 or 308 or 30-06 in a "blow the dust off to go hunting specialist".
Know your limits, know your weapon, practice often and do not accept mediocrity in personal or mechanical performance.
 
Make sure you are 100% happy with your choice. As a fellow Lefty I know how hard it is to find that perfect rifle. Saving a couple hundred bucks could drive you crazy in the long run as it did me.
 
frozenbolt said:
Make sure you are 100% happy with your choice. As a fellow Lefty I know how hard it is to find that perfect rifle. Saving a couple hundred bucks could drive you crazy in the long run as it did me.


I talked my old boss out of getting a pump rifle, he shot left handed and was concerned with being able to let his son shoot his new gun. But the pump did not fit him and I convinced him to get a left handed bolt gun, tikka 338mag if I recall. He was very happy with it a few years later. He gave his old right hand bolt gun to his son.

Well so what you say......

get someting your comfortable with. I suggest from reading your requirements that you get a 30-06.

ammo will always be easy to find, good selection in bullet weights, and will easily kill everything on your list.

if you were looking for a deer only gun I would say fine get a 270. I'll never own one myself but to each their own.

I will also never own a .243,

I have a 25-06, 7mm RM, 308, and 300WM for hunting. That covers everything I want to shoot.

and they are tikka, ruger, winchester, and savage :)
 
I agree with those who say get a rifle that fits you and that you are comfortable with! The 30.06 will do whatever you need to at this time, from bear to whitetail.
If you want to go varmit sniping, none of the choices you mention will do the job and you will need to get a special rifle for that!.
 
Lefty Tikka

Say boys the lefty Tikka model is on the shelves at P&D, T3 I think, and in a variety of calibers, so if P&D has them so will others across this country.FS
 
I know I sound like a broken record on this question, but they really are another good option for a lefty shooter.

Just add a Williams LH safety and go. :)


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leftie quandry

I bought a leftie Ruger MkII in 30-06 and it came with a laminated gray wood stock which I have had bedded and the stainless beaded. Got a2.5-8 Leupie VXIII and I am in love. Shoots real well and looks good to boot. Wholesale in Lethbridge had 2 and nobody else was even interested. I have a good reliable bolt action for anything I want to hunt and everybody has ammo_Oh baby.
 
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