Your 9MM, HS-6 124Gr Frontier load?

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Looking to get a good target load for blasting paper at the range and steel plates at 25yards. Going to be used in my P226.

I have seen a whole bunch posted around but nothing concrete. Please include load grain load and OAL.

Thanks.
 
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The reason I post is that I have nothing in my books for CMJ or Plated 124s, using HS-6.

Don't know if I should do 1.090 - 1.160

Thus why I ask. BTW your load is really hot, 137PF is up there and I would waste unnecessary amounts of powder. But if you can tell me your OAL I'll load up 20 and hit the range.
 
Try doing a search on the term Frontier and look for titles that mention 9mm. Several posters didn't mention the OAL that they used, but some did.
 
CanFire said:
Try doing a search on the term Frontier and look for titles that mention 9mm. Several posters didn't mention the OAL that they used, but some did.
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You have NO idea how many times I've done that already...
 
From the sixth edition (2 year old book) of Hornady's Handbook of Cartridge Reloading:

9mm Luger
Maximum COL: 1.169"
Maximum case length: 0.754"
Case trim length: 0.749"

HS-6::: 5.1gr - 5.9gr
Using the Hornady 124gr FMJ round nose bullet::: COL: 1.150"
Using the Hornady 124gr FMJ-flat nose bullet::: COL: 1.050"

So I'm a little late... at least you know you're within spec. :D
 
Thanks CanFire :rockon:

I'd like to know what the 6.5+ guys, or 6+ for that matter are seating there bullets to. One member I talked to is at 1.155 for 6.4 and I am going to go downstairs and whip up ten to take with me to the range tomorrow.

I have
30 x 5.6, OAL 1.125~
10 x 5.6, OAL 1.150~
12 x 6.5, OAL 1.142~
15 x 6.5, OAL 1.150~

Question - If I can rotate the bullet after its been seated in the case and crimped, that means that..... I did not resize it tight enough? Not enough crimp? Bullet not far enough? No problem? Its not going up and down, just loose enough to rotate around in circles.

Wish me luck.
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scotty said:
Question - If I can rotate the bullet after its been seated in the case and crimped, that means that..... I did not resize it tight enough? Not enough crimp? Bullet not far enough? No problem? Its not going up and down, just loose enough to rotate around in circles.
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Not enough crimp. The bullets should be held firmly. They should never be loose.

Check the diameter of the bullets. If they are under size then the case mouth will not hold it tight enough with what would be an acceptable crimp for a proper size bullet. I have had this problem with some crappy plated bullets.
 
If the bullets can be turned in the cartridge they are too loose.

It would appear that the brass is not being sized enough to give adequate case neck tension. Is the sizing die just touching the shell holder/shell plate? If not lower the die.

I seat & crimp in separate stations. With the bullet just seated prior to crimping I cannot twist it in the case.

A Lee Factory Crimp die would be a good investment.

I think you will find that an OAL of 1.150 with the 124hr RN will perform very well in your 9mm. I have used that measurement in two 9mm guns & it was an accurate & reliable load. I shoot target only & find a Rainier 124gr plated bullet over 4.9gr of Unique is an accurate low recoil load.

Unique can be a little dirty but I clean my guns after every use. All powders are somewhat dirty & if a little extra dirt comes out it's no big deal.:D
 
Got back from the range. She definatley likes the heavier loads. Had a few FTE's with the lighter stuff.

Going to load up some 6.0-6.5 from 1.125 - 1.150
 
If you dies are adjusted properly, to kiss the shellholder, the bullet should not rotate. Apply a light crimp - make sure your dies is a taper crimp not a roll crimp - and ajust crimp to remove the bellying of the case mouth + .001 max.
Do not use a Lee factory crimp dies - you will ruin your brass.

Load to factory OAL for a 124 grain FMJ.

Note that I had better accuracy with the Frontier 115 than the 124 .
 
Janeau said:
and ajust crimp to remove the bellying of the case mouth + .001 max.
Do not use a Lee factory crimp dies - you will ruin your brass.
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I've replaced my Dillon crimp dies with the Lee factory crimp dies for pistol and rifle- the Lee is good to go. I crimp the sh!t out of my ammo and all is good in the world, the Lee won't bugger with the headspace, and it gives the head of your brass a bit of a 'squish' bringing it back to spec.
I recommend you case guage all of your ammo.
 
Thanks RePete.

I have;
30 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated at 1.145
30 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated to 1.125
10 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated to 1.135 to split the difference and check to see if middle ground works better.

I tried some 5.6 with a longer OAL load and my 226 did not like that at all. A few FTE because I'd think the pressure was low. I think shorter OAL with 5.6 is good, maybe around 1.125 compared to the 1.145 and 1.150 that I loaded them to. I did like the higher load, so I am going to try some 6.0Gr seated to 1.125 and see how that works for me.
 
With HS-6 (6.8gr /124gr FMJ) you only need 1.09". With HS-6 personaly I don't see the need to go over 1.25"


btw starting load is 6.4gr.... 5.6 is WAY to low...
 
K, make that.

20 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated at 1.145
40 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated to 1.125
10 loaded up to 6.5Gr HS-6 seated to 1.135

any other suggestions? or should I just load up another 60 at 6.5 with 1.125 and call it a day?
 
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