Your personal experience with your favorite collapsible stock.

Before mortaring, the stock should be collapsed. A long arm with a pivot point=torque.

Personally I think the friction lock on ctr is useless. Some of the stocks out there are getting ridiculous with their footprints.
 
I like the CTR for general use. Going back to a "regular" M4 stock after using the CTR really emphasizes the usefulness of the friction lock. But to each their own I guess.
 
NorCalDustin said:
I will say that I would avoid stocks with locking mechs like the Magpul CTR. I've have personally seen the CTR and others break on at least dozen occasions when having to "mortar" an AR-15. While it's rarely necessary, they just seem to break. When they do break the stock generally collapses in on your fingers (which breaks them), the locking mechanism then gets jammed in the locked position OR it totally breaks and get stuck in the locked position. .
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I've mortared a few stoppages (dirty m855) with a CTR without the stock breaking...mind you I was smart enough to collapse it first.

I have trouble believing that you have seen a dozen stocks break, CTR or not.
 
I've only used the stock m4 style and I've just purchased an MOE - price is right, the stock is solidly built and looks great! CTR concept is nice, but don't really care that much right now
 
blaxsun said:
I've just heard of the one instance where that video that was posted, but it's not clear exactly what the issue was as it happened out of frame (could have been a commercial stock on a mil-spec tube, etc.) I'm not sure how the addition of a locking mechanism on the CTR over the standard MOE would make it more prone to breakage?
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Big_Red said:
I've mortared a few stoppages (dirty m855) with a CTR without the stock breaking...mind you I was smart enough to collapse it first.

I have trouble believing that you have seen a dozen stocks break, CTR or not.
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True, it should be collapsed first (While it may be common since, I've never seen it taught that way... Not even in a Magpul Carbine II class)... But under a stress that goes out the window.
 
NorCalDustin said:
True, it should be collapsed first (While it may be common since, I've never seen it taught that way... Not even in a Magpul Carbine II class)... But under a stress that goes out the window.
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If your manual of arms goes out the window under stress, you need to practice more. Regardless of what the "cool guys" at Magpul preach/teach, the stock needs to be collapsed before mortaring.

TDC
 
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TDC said:
If your manual or arms goes out the window under stress, you need to practice more. Regardless of what the "cool guys" at Magpul preach/teach, the stock needs to be collapsed before mortaring.

TDC
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lol okay...

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TDC said:
If your manual or arms goes out the window under stress, you need to practice more. Regardless of what the "cool guys" at Magpul preach/teach, the stock needs to be collapsed before mortaring.

TDC
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TDC is a pretty straight shooter with the truth, and he's right on this. If you have to mortar a rifle, you've progressed beyond IA drill and need to focus on the task at hand. Half assing things at this stage is only going to aggravate your problem.
 
misanthropist said:
Mall ninja or no, he's right. You collapse stocks before you mortar them.

If you've seen a dozen different stocks break from people mortaring them, you must have either a lot of friends who use incredibly s**tty gear, or a lot of friends who do not know how to clear stoppages properly.
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Some people think it is a cool macho thing to use the most violent means to un-clog their weapons. It is almost like a statement that I must prove to my buddies I don't babysit my weapons, so my buddies won't call me a sis.

However, sometimes you just need to pause, and apply thinking as well as logical reasoning before start kicking the living hell out of your wpn with your boots or mortaring it to the ground.

It is all about applying common sense under stress! (and the fundamentals of marksmanship)
 
greentips said:
Some people think it is a cool macho thing to use the most violent means to un-clog their weapons. It is almost like a statement that I must prove to my buddies I don't babysit my weapons, so my buddies won't call me a sis.

However, sometimes you just need to pause, and apply thinking as well as logical reasoning before start kicking the living hell out of your wpn with your boots or mortaring it to the ground.

It is all about applying common sense under stress! (and the fundamentals of marksmanship)
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Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
 
Hokus Grey said:
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
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In my experience, slow is slow, smooth is smooth and fast is fast.


I'm not opposed to mortaring guns if necessary...sometimes you need a fast fix and that might help. But mortaring incorrectly - ie not collapsing the stock - is not likely to be helpful. Any stoppage drill done wrong is more likely to cause you worse problems than fix whatever you're trying to deal with.

I have tons of testosterone and I love it to death, but at the same time you need to be selective about when to apply it, and beating your guns so your friends think you're tough is definitely the wrong application.

That is why we don't rack-tap...if you do it wrong it doesn't help.
 
misanthropist said:
Mall ninja or no, he's right. You collapse stocks before you mortar them.

If you've seen a dozen different stocks break from people mortaring them, you must have either a lot of friends who use incredibly s**tty gear, or a lot of friends who do not know how to clear stoppages properly.
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Good points, and I suspect its a combination of the two possibilities.


greentips said:
Some people think it is a cool macho thing to use the most violent means to un-clog their weapons. It is almost like a statement that I must prove to my buddies I don't babysit my weapons, so my buddies won't call me a sis.

However, sometimes you just need to pause, and apply thinking as well as logical reasoning before start kicking the living hell out of your wpn with your boots or mortaring it to the ground.

It is all about applying common sense under stress! (and the fundamentals of marksmanship)
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Oh come on, brute force and ignorance solves all.:rolleyes:

TDC
 
CTR and M93B here.

I like the CTR for minimalist approach. Light and solid. Balances nicely with a short barrel. I dig the robot leg to counter balance a longer barrel/heaver rail. I used to have an 18" upper it worked great with... Most of the time I go with the CTR, no better stock for the money IMHO.
 
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