Your thoughts on 22lr/22wmr revolvers

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I once bought from a friend (just to help him out $$) a Ruger single action 22lr / 22wmr and liked the idea of cheap plinking with the ability to change to the more potent 22wmr, but was not a fan of single action only. Lately I have been shooting the 22lr pistols I have a lot and a couple of airgun revolvers I have a fair bit. I have developed a bug to get me a double action revolver with 22lr and 22wmr cylinders. I have been looking at the choices. All of the Alfa Proj models are in stock between 2 Canadian dealers but I can't find any of the Taurus in Canada. Unless I am missing something I seem to be limited to:

1. Taurus Tracker Blued 6.5"
2. Taurus Tracker Stainless 6.5"
3. Alfa Proj Alloy 4.5"
4. Alfa Proj Alloy 6"
5. Alfa Proj Steel 4.5"
6. Alfa Proj Steel 6"
7. Alfa Proj Stainless 4.5"
8. Alfa Proj Stainless 6"

My wife shoots with me a bit and likes the lighter guns. She probably would be most comfortable shooting the Alfa Proj Alloy 4.5". I am a bit weary of alloy on a revolver. I also hear some rumblings about the quality of both manufacturers. I would like your thoughts. Pros/Cons anything you folks can chime in on.

Thanks Folks.
Moe
 
If we could hunt with handguns I'd be all over a .22wmr revolver but for punching paper .22wmr is a waste of time. .22lr or go up to .357/.38 special. Besides having a bigger bore for .22wmr makes the .22lr much less accurate.
 
Good points. I would be using it to plink with the option of going to the US and use for small game. I have plenty of center fire handguns. Was not aware that the bore on the WMR was larger resulting in poor accuracy in LR. Will have to research that. It would not be for bulls eye shooting so OK accuracy would be fine. I have heard the same about 22lr conversion bolts in 223 cal AR15 rifles. I borrowed one of those conversions and the accuracy was fin in my Colt AR.

Moe
 
For cheap plinking, we went with an Advantage Arms conversion kit for our Glocks... I know, I know, not a revolver... Chuckle

Cheers
Jay
 
I had a S&W M48 for awhile, the bore was sized for the wmr and provided very good accuracy, however that made the 22lr performance more like a spray gun. Part of it may have been the rather long freebore gap to the forcing cone. If you are intending to carry a firearm into the states, remember that the paperwork, especially the ATF form 6 can take quite a while to get processed particularly if you are not going to a sanctioned match.

Dr Jim
 
Jay said:
For cheap plinking, we went with an Advantage Arms conversion kit for our Glocks... I know, I know, not a revolver... Chuckle

Cheers
Jay
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Yep. Done that. I have an Advantage Jamomatic Misfire Arms kit collecting dust as we speak. Works 95% of the time with 5% of the ammo out there.

Moe

T&G said:
I had a S&W M48 for awhile, the bore was sized for the wmr and provided very good accuracy, however that made the 22lr performance more like a spray gun. Part of it may have been the rather long freebore gap to the forcing cone. If you are intending to carry a firearm into the states, remember that the paperwork, especially the ATF form 6 can take quite a while to get processed particularly if you are not going to a sanctioned match.

Dr Jim
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Way easier ways to get a handgun into the US legally. Not going to get this topic off the rails but do a search. It starts with a US hunting licence.

Moe
 
I have the Ruger convertible .22LR/.22WMR gun. I like it a lot. I like the .22WMR round a lot. It isn't cheap to buy I pay about what I could pay for 9mm. I don't shoot it a lot obviously. I like ringing the gong at 50 yards with the mag rounds. I think if you're going for a .22WMR gun get a long bbl. The round is made for a rifle so the longer the bbl. the better to get the most out of the round. If you're going for the .22WMR and not the Ruger you're going to have to go for a separate gun for each round.
 
I got one ( single six ) barely shoot 22Win mags from it. I find around 200rdsof LR that cylinder starts to gum up ( that I gotta jam the rounds in hard ) or take the cylinder out and clean the lip. If slow reloading is your thing get a single action. If not I would get a regular old revolver. It will get tiring after 50 or so rounds.
 
I prefer shooting revolvers and owned a few rimfire ones.
I found shooting rimfire revolvers boring and sold them. However, if I was looking I would go for a 617 and forget about 22mag.
 
T&G said:
Moe, still requires a Form 6 and an invitation, as well as the licence.
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Not half as bad as it sounds. Been down south with restricted guns in tow several times and the paper work was always completed start to end inside 30 days. Let's stay on topic.

rustynut1 said:
I have the Ruger convertible .22LR/.22WMR gun. I like it a lot. I like the .22WMR round a lot. It isn't cheap to buy I pay about what I could pay for 9mm. I don't shoot it a lot obviously. I like ringing the gong at 50 yards with the mag rounds. I think if you're going for a .22WMR gun get a long bbl. The round is made for a rifle so the longer the bbl. the better to get the most out of the round. If you're going for the .22WMR and not the Ruger you're going to have to go for a separate gun for each round.
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There at least the Taurus and Alfa Proj guns listed in post 1 for double action in both rounds. I like your idea about the longer barrel.

ryan said:
I too would stick with .22 LR or center fire. And buy quality the first time.
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Have plenty of center fire handguns but I like your point about quality the first time. So what has better quality, Taurus or Alpha Proj ?

OkayShooter said:
I got one ( single six ) barely shoot 22Win mags from it. I find around 200rdsof LR that cylinder starts to gum up ( that I gotta jam the rounds in hard ) or take the cylinder out and clean the lip. If slow reloading is your thing get a single action. If not I would get a regular old revolver. It will get tiring after 50 or so rounds.
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Yea I'm definitely not going to get a single action. Been there done that. 22 tends to gum up anything after a couple hundred rounds.

Perhaps I should have worded my post differently. I should have asked of this list of revolvers which one should I get?

1. Taurus Tracker Blued 6.5"
2. Taurus Tracker Stainless 6.5"
3. Alfa Proj Alloy 4.5"
4. Alfa Proj Alloy 6"
5. Alfa Proj Steel 4.5"
6. Alfa Proj Steel 6"
7. Alfa Proj Stainless 4.5"
8. Alfa Proj Stainless 6"

Thanks again and keep up the input folks.
Moe
 
I would look at the 6" stainless because its easier to clean. Also little iffy about alloys.

I like the look of the Stainless Trackers. Apperently only 45.6 oz or 2.85lbs.
 
Revolver in 22lr are not so funny...(even kinda boring) When you shoot a revolver, you expect to get that heavy recoil and sound... But if you shhot revolver and want a good plinking revolver to lower the ammo price, then you should get one... If you want to shoot a 22lr without a jam, then you should get a 22lr revolver... Stick to 22lr, 22 mag arent that cheap... I would prefer shooting 38special in a nice revolver than waste my money to get a 22mag revolver... (You can buy a lot of ammo for the price of a 22lr revolver)

If you reeeaaallllyyyy want a 22 revolver then grab a nice S&W 617.
 
I wouldn't fire a .22WMR out of the same cylinder as a .22LR. The .22WMR is about twice as long as the .22LR so there is a lot of unsupported lead (in a .22LR) that has to travel in air before it hits the bore. You get this in a lot of different rounds, say 38 Special vs 357 Mag, 45 colt vs 454 vs 460, 45 colt vs 45ACP, 44 special vs 44 mag and so on. If the unsupported lead is say 1/10 of an inch maybe not too bad but going for say a 45 colt in a 460 gun isn't great for accuracy.
 
OkayShooter said:
I would look at the 6" stainless because its easier to clean. Also little iffy about alloys.

I like the look of the Stainless Trackers. Apperently only 45.6 oz or 2.85lbs.
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Good points for the stainless.

Heimdall1982 said:
Revolver in 22lr are not so funny...(even kinda boring) When you shoot a revolver, you expect to get that heavy recoil and sound... But if you shhot revolver and want a good plinking revolver to lower the ammo price, then you should get one... If you want to shoot a 22lr without a jam, then you should get a 22lr revolver... Stick to 22lr, 22 mag arent that cheap... I would prefer shooting 38special in a nice revolver than waste my money to get a 22mag revolver... (You can buy a lot of ammo for the price of a 22lr revolver)

If you reeeaaallllyyyy want a 22 revolver then grab a nice S&W 617.
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I see your point about go 38 over 22wmr. I already have centerfire handguns and not looking to fill a void there. The S&W 617 is sweet A friend has one and it is a good gun but no 22wmr for it.

ryan said:
If it were me buying, it would be Ruger or S&W. Nobody ever trades those for an Alfa or Taurus.
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Yea I hear that kind of thing often. Sadly of the two you recommend only ruger offersa combo and only in single action. I'm looking for double action.

rustynut1 said:
I wouldn't fire a .22WMR out of the same cylinder as a .22LR. The .22WMR is about twice as long as the .22LR so there is a lot of unsupported lead (in a .22LR) that has to travel in air before it hits the bore. You get this in a lot of different rounds, say 38 Special vs 357 Mag, 45 colt vs 454 vs 460, 45 colt vs 45ACP, 44 special vs 44 mag and so on. If the unsupported lead is say 1/10 of an inch maybe not too bad but going for say a 45 colt in a 460 gun isn't great for accuracy.
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I see your point but these revolvers that shoot 22lr and 22wmr come with 2 cylinders. One for 22lr and one for 22wmr to avoid problems like you listed.

Moe
 
rustynut1 said:
I wouldn't fire a .22WMR out of the same cylinder as a .22LR. The .22WMR is about twice as long as the .22LR so there is a lot of unsupported lead (in a .22LR) that has to travel in air before it hits the bore. You get this in a lot of different rounds, say 38 Special vs 357 Mag, 45 colt vs 454 vs 460, 45 colt vs 45ACP, 44 special vs 44 mag and so on. If the unsupported lead is say 1/10 of an inch maybe not too bad but going for say a 45 colt in a 460 gun isn't great for accuracy.
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You don't, you install the proper cylinder that comes with these convertibles.

I might shoot a box of 22 mag out of mine a month. I use mine to plink steel at 100Y.
 
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