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I have a 7 year old who loves going for walks in the woods with the gun and I am looking for something to get him into shooting. I have a full sized Winchester 37a in 410. I have had him shoulder this, with me helping support the forend and he has managed to shoot a couple cans I had setup. I have been looking to get a Tristar Cobra III Field Pump Super Compact in 410. https://www.tristararms.com/series/...i-field-pump-super-compact-super-cmpct-walnut It comes with a 12" LOP, 18.5" barrel, and is 4.3lb. I think it would be perfect for starting out. I have had trouble finding one in Canada. I emailed Tristar in the states to see if they have imported any of them to Canada but never got a response from them. I was also looking at the Mossberg 510 Mini Super Bantam, it seems to be a popular option. It has a LOP from 10.5-11.5", 18.5" barrel and is 5lb. I will probably en up with one of them if i can't track down the Tristar. I was attracted to the Tristar due to the wood stock and 0.7lb less weight. Has anyone had any experience with these guns? Or do anyone know where I could get he Tristar in Canada? He currently has a Youth Daisy Red Ryder that we shoot together, he can still shoot it but the 13.75" LOP seems to be able an inch or two too long for him still.
 
You could always order the Tristar thru Irunguns and have it imported if that’s the one that works for you. Other than that the Mossberg is a pretty good option, there are a bunch of youth models in the 500/505/510 series to look at
 
I bought a Mossy 510 bantam in 20ga for my grandsons. Initially, it was very muzzle heavy and kicked pretty good. I filled the hollow plastic butt stock with BB’s, add about 2 LBS to the total weight and moved the balance point to just ahead of the trigger guard. Kids absolutely love it and started shooting it at 8yo.
 
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phukn .410 , Worst thing my Dad bought for me when I was 10 yrs.

Cooey single and I couldnt hit a thing on the wing with it, I could do as good with my .22.

Get him a 20 g , if he cant handle it ,stay with a .22.

No just an opinion....skwerl
 
Had my little guy start out with a .410 at age 8 -- but it was expensive to feed and he was only so interested in shooting thrown clays when he was hitting 5 out of 25 on a really good day. The gun was just fine though for letting him shoot birds perched in trees.

Now two years later he's shooting a 20 gauge and he's killing about 70% of the clays I throw for him. Hunting wise, the 20 gauge has opened everything up for him. Birds still rattle him pretty good when they flush, but they're not entirely safe anymore :)

I guess what I'm saying is don't put too much into the .410. He'll likely only use it for a year or two before being ready for an upgrade.

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My vote would have gone to a single shot 16g or 20g, shooting light loads.
- A IJ58 or Aya single are usually in the 5.5lb range, and not that much $
- Chop the stock to fit... then add extension as he grow up. I knew an older gentleman who's dad had done so on a 22lr rifle. It was one of his prize possession.

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My preference would be for a 28ga but there doesn’t seem to be many sub 12” lop stocked guns. I’m not against chopping one off, seems like with my 37a even the barrel on that is a little too weight forward. I’m not a big fan of the 410 for beginners. I don’t envision him doing much wing shooting with it. Just looking for something now to get him shooting some stationary cans and clay pidgons. I got a couple more young ones that will get use out of whatever I get eventually too. The other one I really wanted was the

Keystone Crickett 410 Ga Youth Single Shot Break Action My First Shotgun. But it doesn’t seem like they’ve been imported for a couple years.​

 
I bought my son an old H&R 410 from intersuplus, it weights 3.75 pounds and he loves it for shooting sitting grouse and rabbits. He also has a Henry he also has a Henry mini bolt 22. He was seven when I got them for him. Everything else was too heavy for him. Now he's 9 and he's going to get a single shot 20g and a rifle in 223 or 7.62x39.

Muzzle weight was the biggest issues for him at 7
 
skwerl said:
phukn .410 , Worst thing my Dad bought for me when I was 10 yrs.

Cooey single and I couldnt hit a thing on the wing with it, I could do as good with my .22.

Get him a 20 g , if he cant handle it ,stay with a .22.

No just an opinion....skwerl
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I tortchered Thing 2 with numerous .410’s.
Finally said screw it and next up was a 12 gauge.
4-10’s arr a waste of time.

Go 28 at least.
Price of ammo is close.
Or a 20 with light loads.
 
For now, I'd go with a 22lr, and a 20 gauge in a couple years or so.
I'd recommend the Henry 22 youth model lever gun.
Got this for my Grandson when he was younger, and at 12 years of age now he prefers the 22,
and tells me we have to be extra quiet Grandpa, so we can shoot 'em in the head!!!
He takes after his Grandpa!!!
 
I like 410 and I have two for my kids. One is a browning bps youth model and the other is a Crickett. The Browning is probably too big and heavy for a 7 year old, but it’s really nice once they’re a bit older. The Crickett is a little hard on the younger ones shooting 3” shells because the gun is so light. I’ve been giving him 2.5” 7.5 shot. I’m kicking myself for not buying a box of the reduced load from Cabelas, I think it was #8 shot and low energy. The Crickett is nice because they can easily carry it with the action open and a shell in the pipe.

I don’t have a problem getting birds with a 410.
 
Bustercluck said:
I like 410 and I have two for my kids. One is a browning bps youth model and the other is a Crickett. The Browning is probably too big and heavy for a 7 year old, but it’s really nice once they’re a bit older. The Crickett is a little hard on the younger ones shooting 3” shells because the gun is so light. I’ve been giving him 2.5” 7.5 shot. I’m kicking myself for not buying a box of the reduced load from Cabelas, I think it was #8 shot and low energy. The Crickett is nice because they can easily carry it with the action open and a shell in the pipe.

I don’t have a problem getting birds with a 410.
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Well Buster nice to hear that You don't have a problem getting birds with a .410

When I was a 10 to 12 year old kid I had a phukin' hard go ..with a .410 , got a 12g
when I was 14 and became a Duck & Pheasant ''Shooter'' not just hunter.
....skwerl
 
Stevens 301 410 compact is another option. Single shot break action.
For targets use 8s or 9s for a fuller pattern.

Too many ppl try to use 4s to hit a small target at 30 yards and blame the 410 for their inadequacy or ignorance of ballistics
 
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