youth clays
- Thread starter popcanhunter
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Now you gartzs me pensing.........?
.410 x 2 1/2" are pretty mild.
Bit more punch with the 3", but not as much as 20 even in semi
I believe.
It will have more noise for sure, but with good ear protection should muffle it out.
Too bad you weren't closer, I'd toss you a couple to try out.
A-5 .......12...... &.......20
Funny you can't get adopted at the trap club and get the crowd to help you along
with your daughter.
I remember when I was wee folk, the old gang would guide me at the shooting area
and coax me through some clay shooting.
WTF happened to that?
I love my 410 its a heavy 410 but almost no felt recoil, start them off shooting stationary targets and then when they have some confidence then go to clays, i think starting them with more recoil will teach them bad habits like flinching etc. just my .02
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I've seen a number of new pre-teen shooters started off with many different guns. A couple of the best IMHO are the Remington 1100 Skeet guns in 20 or 28 ga.
Although the 410 has very little perceived recoil with target loads, it is comparatively hard to hit with ... discouraging a young shooter in a hurry. Heaven knows,
there's enough adults discouraged with the little "idiot stick".
The 20 ga. will most likely be the easiest to find ... and 20ga. "promo" loads are usually just as inexpensive as 12's. There are enough Remington parts around
that you should be able to find a cheap stock or two to cut down as required, as the youngster grows.
Recoil is pretty much a product of gun & shot charge weight for a given velocity. If both the 12 and 20 ga. guns weighed 7 lbs., the standard 1200 fps target load
of 1-1/8 oz. in the 12 ga. should produce more felt recoil than the same 20 ga. 1200 fps. velocity load of the 7/8 oz. 20 ga. The elt recoil from an auto-loader is generally
considerably less than a single, pump or double as some of the energy of the fired shell is bled off ( either gas or recoil energy ) to facilitate the operation of the action.
I started both my son & daugter off at 12 with a 12 ga. Win. SX-1 (semi), but they were both "big kid"s for their age ( adult daughter is now 6'-1", son 6'-7" )
They both said recoil was not a problem, and no bruises showed. Although the young are keen to get shooting, many don't have the upper arm strength to
do so, i.e., mount, support & swing the gun comfortably. If it's a struggle for them, perhaps wait it out until they're a lttle older. Let them practice "dry mounting" and
"dry shooting" in a supervised safe environment until sufficient strength and ability to handle the gun is demonstrated. If they can get through a "simulated round" of
25 shots over say 6 - 10 minutes without showing fatigue, it may be ready to start. Length of pull and comb height will be just as important to a young shooter as
an experienced one, and as often as not, the young shooter because of their stature will do better with neutral pitch. Good coaching on gun mounting, stance, swing and
forward allowance methods will be a huge help, as will having the gun fitted to the young shooter properly.
And I'd definitely have them start on stationary clay targets well before introducing gentle straight-away risers or anything more difficult.
Good luck in getting her off on the right foot !
Although the 410 has very little perceived recoil with target loads, it is comparatively hard to hit with ... discouraging a young shooter in a hurry. Heaven knows,
there's enough adults discouraged with the little "idiot stick".
The 20 ga. will most likely be the easiest to find ... and 20ga. "promo" loads are usually just as inexpensive as 12's. There are enough Remington parts around
that you should be able to find a cheap stock or two to cut down as required, as the youngster grows.
Recoil is pretty much a product of gun & shot charge weight for a given velocity. If both the 12 and 20 ga. guns weighed 7 lbs., the standard 1200 fps target load
of 1-1/8 oz. in the 12 ga. should produce more felt recoil than the same 20 ga. 1200 fps. velocity load of the 7/8 oz. 20 ga. The elt recoil from an auto-loader is generally
considerably less than a single, pump or double as some of the energy of the fired shell is bled off ( either gas or recoil energy ) to facilitate the operation of the action.
I started both my son & daugter off at 12 with a 12 ga. Win. SX-1 (semi), but they were both "big kid"s for their age ( adult daughter is now 6'-1", son 6'-7" )
They both said recoil was not a problem, and no bruises showed. Although the young are keen to get shooting, many don't have the upper arm strength to
do so, i.e., mount, support & swing the gun comfortably. If it's a struggle for them, perhaps wait it out until they're a lttle older. Let them practice "dry mounting" and
"dry shooting" in a supervised safe environment until sufficient strength and ability to handle the gun is demonstrated. If they can get through a "simulated round" of
25 shots over say 6 - 10 minutes without showing fatigue, it may be ready to start. Length of pull and comb height will be just as important to a young shooter as
an experienced one, and as often as not, the young shooter because of their stature will do better with neutral pitch. Good coaching on gun mounting, stance, swing and
forward allowance methods will be a huge help, as will having the gun fitted to the young shooter properly.
And I'd definitely have them start on stationary clay targets well before introducing gentle straight-away risers or anything more difficult.
Good luck in getting her off on the right foot !
Go with a 12 ga auto & get her enrolled in a club with proper instruction there are many programs for new shooters such as paid targets free ammo and such take advantage of this it will get started correctly check and see what your local clubs have to offer .
