Youtube - African subsistence spear hunting!

waynewjw said:
That is brutal. It's one thing to kill an animal with a clean shoot, but this video is revolting, these guys are killing absolutely everything in sight...SIC :mad:
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Revolting? I bet every society that exists at some point used tactics like this to hunt for meat before the advent of enviro-religion and technology.

How else would you feed your family if you don't have a grocery store or even a gun and pick up truck?

You and I are very fortunate to live in as affluent and prosperous of a society to be afforded the LUXURY of being able to hunt with tools that can kill an animal almost instantly at ranges over 5 yards.

Take away our petro-powered space technology and guess what people like you and I would be doing within a few years? They're already starting in the US:

http://www. nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/game_time_in_klyn_pWrqNaSaOP6Vxm8SI14KCO
 
That was really something! People seem to forget what we really are. Also the red comment box at the start made me laugh.
 
The idea of hunting ethics is a function of hunting for sport, not subsistence. One can be much pickier if they are pursuing game by choice, rather than out of necessity.

Meditations on Hunting by Jose Ortega y Gasset has some good insights on the subject.
 
waynewjw said:
That is brutal. It's one thing to kill an animal with a clean shoot, but this video is revolting, these guys are killing absolutely everything in sight...SIC :mad:
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f:P:

So you are starving with a village of people to feed, and no weapons but a spear.

What do you do?

Go to the grocery store right? :jerkit:

Lets wake up and smell the reality here people.
 
mlehtovaara said:
So you are starving with a village of people to feed, and no weapons but a spear. What do you do?
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You should check this out, It's much less cruel. It's called persistence hunting, where a group of humans will run an animal to the brink of exhaustion and waiting for it to collapse before spearing it in the heart. It's theorized in some journals that this was the main method of hunting in the past as we are uniquely evolved out of all primate species to run long distances.

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TheMasterOfNone said:
You should check this out, It's much less cruel. It's called persistence hunting, where a group of humans will run an animal to the brink of exhaustion and waiting for it to collapse before spearing it in the heart. It's theorized in some journals that this was the main method of hunting in the past as we are uniquely evolved out of all primate species to run long distances.

[youtube]826HMLoiE_o[/youtube]
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Thanks for sharing, another amazing video. The animal was pretty much begging to be put out of its misery at the end there.
 
Ethics are the luxury of the well fed...... May I always have ethics! :D:redface:

At the 40 second mark they start describing how the Africans surround the animals with large numbers of people and squeeze the circle killing everything inside. Sound like something only a savage would do?

Circle hunts were an 'important' part of the settlement of eastern north america where white settlers did the exact same thing. I can't find my book describing it right now so you will have to settle for this:
http://carriewalker.########.com/2010/08/explaining-circle-hunt.html
 
harbl_the_cat said:
Revolting? I bet every society that exists at some point used tactics like this to hunt for meat before the advent of enviro-religion and technology.

How else would you feed your family if you don't have a grocery store or even a gun and pick up truck?

You and I are very fortunate to live in as affluent and prosperous of a society to be afforded the LUXURY of being able to hunt with tools that can kill an animal almost instantly at ranges over 5 yards.

Take away our petro-powered space technology and guess what people like you and I would be doing within a few years? They're already starting in the US:

http://www. nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/game_time_in_klyn_pWrqNaSaOP6Vxm8SI14KCO
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Yes, and isn't funny how our ancestors moved beyond all that a long time ago.

And their's didn't.
 
Hard not to have an emotional reaction to those videos. The sheer danger of taking on hippos and buffalos at close quarters on a regular basis is startling. And everybody is wiry and fit.
We must still have those instincts, sublimated into sports, rioting, joing the army and even going hunting.
 
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