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Terry Perkins
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Bruce County
Looks like a Dolphin Trakker.
Sorry haven't updated for a little while but here are some past video with some newer one.
Some flag and wind reading practice from TCSA Rattlesnake Range:
1000 yard shooting point at Rattlesnake it was a fun competition and my first time shooting 800, 800 & 1000 yards. I'm hook on long range hope to post up some old footage at Rattlesnake once I have more time to hash it together. Thoroughly enjoyed it and would recommend anyone shooting F-class to try this range out extremely challenging winds.
Some flag and wind reading practice from TCSA Rattlesnake Range:
Congrats on your rifle, I'm extremely happy to hear it is shooting well for you.
What kind of pills and caliber you shooting? To answer your questions, no I didn't shoot it prior nor I was confident that that action was making even contact through the entire length of the action. The high spots of paint and the forward and back movement of the square action in the stock just did not instill confidence in me. The "what if" or call it "psychological" side of it bother me
. Prior to bedding I contemplated if I should do this process for little while. The barrel being so heavy forward always tilted forward before the screws where tightened. So to me there wasn't any repeatable way the stock mated with the square action or provide consistent contact with the recoil lug. Even when the action was torque the same every time. Secondly the rear of the tang was designed to be a recoil bearing surface, however it wasn't even making any contact with the stock. So more and more I thought about it the and the additional research I've done indicated to me that bedding it wouldn't negatively affect accuracy. However bedding will address some of the question marks and address any concern the "Nut" behind the trigger may have LOL.I assume that the recoil lug is larger on the Borden and slotted deeper than the Panda action and the paint on the XGSC Borden Stock is more even because it is a curve surface. You could clearly see in Vlog 5 how unevenly it was making contact on the "flat" action area. The action was being supported by the high spots in the paint along the length of the action in three distinct areas. So question I asked myself is the action being only supported by the high spots creating any stress on the action?
One of the biggest selling point of the Kelbly has with the F-class Panda Action is the surface area that it has for bedding. So my thought went to why not bed? It wouldn't hurt giving it all the surface area it was designed for.
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TriggerTech VS Jewell HVR Review. More details on the triggers in the video description.
Video Description:
This is a table top review comparing of the newly introduced TriggerTech Rem700 Trigger $110.00 CND + taxes and shipping (or $89.99USD) to the Jewell HVR Trigger. The TriggerTech Trigger Model I got is the one without a Safety or Bolt Release. The Jewell HVR trigger I got was purchase without a safety or bolt release prices range from $250-300 CND depending on your location and retailer.
Website:
http://www.triggertech.com/rem-700.html
TriggerTech has achieved a Zero Creep trigger and in the process created one of the most affordable drop in trigger for the Remington 700. Coming from the factory the Trigger I received is set at approximately 3.0lbs. In adjusting the TriggerTech Trigger I back the trigger pull weight set screw until there wasn't any audible clicks. Then turning the set screw back in until i hear 1 audible click to ensure the set screw is engaged with the "click" in order to ensure the screw doesn't back out. This would in theory produce the least pull weight achievable by this trigger. It is not recommend by TriggerTech that the set screw back out any further and a "click" should be engaged to ensure retention of the set screw and safe operations.
There is no sears or over travel adjustments set screw to adjust so there is less likely to create a negligent misfire with the TriggerTech Trigger. Finally series of test produce a pull weight range between 1lbs 7.5oz to 1lbs - 12oz. In my test averaging pull weight about 1lbs 10oz at the lowest possible setting.
Jewell Trigger has no website bus was easily adjustable to 1.5lbs by turning out the set screw that is located on the trigger shoe. Final series of test produce a range from 1lb 7oz to 1lbs.9oz and averaging at 1lb 8oz.
Conclusion:
TriggerTech
Pros:The TriggerTech Trigger is the best value trigger on the market. Producing a consistent trigger pull with zero creep and clean break. Price, price and price TriggerTech has provided incredible value for the price compared to Timney or Jewell. Simple adjustment using only on set screw for pull weight. Trigger Tech created a trigger that is a direct competitor to the Timney 510 or Jewell HVR trigger. Did I mention price?
Cons: Vibration and feeling. I can't help but pull the trigger and get a sense of a hollowness or harsh abruptness to the trigger. However it may attributed to the me getting use to a new style of trigger and the way it sets up.
Jewell HVR:
Pros: A adjustable pull weight range from 8oz-48oz "A" spring installed. Spring can be easily replaced with a lower weight "B" or "C" spring for higher or lighter BR trigger type of pull weight. The Jewell HVR gave a better sense of "surprised" feeling and feedback.
Cons: Price the trigger comes with a high price tag, lack of info or support information.
Video Description:
This is a table top review comparing of the newly introduced TriggerTech Rem700 Trigger $110.00 CND + taxes and shipping (or $89.99USD) to the Jewell HVR Trigger. The TriggerTech Trigger Model I got is the one without a Safety or Bolt Release. The Jewell HVR trigger I got was purchase without a safety or bolt release prices range from $250-300 CND depending on your location and retailer.
Website:
http://www.triggertech.com/rem-700.html
TriggerTech has achieved a Zero Creep trigger and in the process created one of the most affordable drop in trigger for the Remington 700. Coming from the factory the Trigger I received is set at approximately 3.0lbs. In adjusting the TriggerTech Trigger I back the trigger pull weight set screw until there wasn't any audible clicks. Then turning the set screw back in until i hear 1 audible click to ensure the set screw is engaged with the "click" in order to ensure the screw doesn't back out. This would in theory produce the least pull weight achievable by this trigger. It is not recommend by TriggerTech that the set screw back out any further and a "click" should be engaged to ensure retention of the set screw and safe operations.
There is no sears or over travel adjustments set screw to adjust so there is less likely to create a negligent misfire with the TriggerTech Trigger. Finally series of test produce a pull weight range between 1lbs 7.5oz to 1lbs - 12oz. In my test averaging pull weight about 1lbs 10oz at the lowest possible setting.
Jewell Trigger has no website bus was easily adjustable to 1.5lbs by turning out the set screw that is located on the trigger shoe. Final series of test produce a range from 1lb 7oz to 1lbs.9oz and averaging at 1lb 8oz.
Conclusion:
TriggerTech
Pros:The TriggerTech Trigger is the best value trigger on the market. Producing a consistent trigger pull with zero creep and clean break. Price, price and price TriggerTech has provided incredible value for the price compared to Timney or Jewell. Simple adjustment using only on set screw for pull weight. Trigger Tech created a trigger that is a direct competitor to the Timney 510 or Jewell HVR trigger. Did I mention price?
Cons: Vibration and feeling. I can't help but pull the trigger and get a sense of a hollowness or harsh abruptness to the trigger. However it may attributed to the me getting use to a new style of trigger and the way it sets up.
Jewell HVR:
Pros: A adjustable pull weight range from 8oz-48oz "A" spring installed. Spring can be easily replaced with a lower weight "B" or "C" spring for higher or lighter BR trigger type of pull weight. The Jewell HVR gave a better sense of "surprised" feeling and feedback.
Cons: Price the trigger comes with a high price tag, lack of info or support information.
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Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Great vid as always.. very comprehensive and thoughtful.
For the Jewell HVR family, with spring swap, they will go to around 2 to 4 oz pulls.
With the Jewell, there is a hint of TAKE UP... the trigger shoe moves slightly when you place your finger on it. However, there is very little creep... why you get the surprised break.
Take up is like the first stage in a 2 stage trigger, albeit greatly reduced in distance and force required. When the trigger stops from this very short movement, applying force leads to the sear dropping. There is no movement in the trigger AS you apply the force... this is what I think of as creep. The build up of force on the trigger comes with the shoe moving.. then the break.
The question on the dead stop being a good or bad thing is a very astute observation. Not sure what will happen... I guess more testing is in order
Where I see the TT trigger really working well is in Silhouette shooting. Here you are required by rules to have a 2lbs trigger pull in one of the classes. When shooting standing up, the most important thing you need is a crisp predictable break on that trigger. Shooters of this game will really like the TT - it will shortern their perception of applying the force to when they want the gun to go bang.
In this sport, the boom is anticipated and timed in the wobble of the gun. You do not want a surprise break cause then you have no idea where the gun is pointing.
This can be a big aid in hunting applications too.
Overall, I have been really impressed with the TT for brand new into the centerfire rifle market. For the money, it is a wonderful deal. Being manf in Canada, even better. The longevity and durability question can only be answered with time and shooter experience... so far so good.
When they release their light pull trigger, it will be a good time to compare with the Jewell in my current FTR Pierce rifle.
Great vid per usual. Keep it going....
Jerry
For the Jewell HVR family, with spring swap, they will go to around 2 to 4 oz pulls.
With the Jewell, there is a hint of TAKE UP... the trigger shoe moves slightly when you place your finger on it. However, there is very little creep... why you get the surprised break.
Take up is like the first stage in a 2 stage trigger, albeit greatly reduced in distance and force required. When the trigger stops from this very short movement, applying force leads to the sear dropping. There is no movement in the trigger AS you apply the force... this is what I think of as creep. The build up of force on the trigger comes with the shoe moving.. then the break.
The question on the dead stop being a good or bad thing is a very astute observation. Not sure what will happen... I guess more testing is in order
Where I see the TT trigger really working well is in Silhouette shooting. Here you are required by rules to have a 2lbs trigger pull in one of the classes. When shooting standing up, the most important thing you need is a crisp predictable break on that trigger. Shooters of this game will really like the TT - it will shortern their perception of applying the force to when they want the gun to go bang.
In this sport, the boom is anticipated and timed in the wobble of the gun. You do not want a surprise break cause then you have no idea where the gun is pointing.
This can be a big aid in hunting applications too.
Overall, I have been really impressed with the TT for brand new into the centerfire rifle market. For the money, it is a wonderful deal. Being manf in Canada, even better. The longevity and durability question can only be answered with time and shooter experience... so far so good.
When they release their light pull trigger, it will be a good time to compare with the Jewell in my current FTR Pierce rifle.
Great vid per usual. Keep it going....
Jerry
- Location
- West Quebec
Subscribed..and thanks
I haven't updated this for a little while my most recent trip.
Interview with Canadian F-Class Team F-Open Line Coach Richard.
Interview with the one of many skilled and recent winner 2016 Art Borne Memorial in Kamloops in F-Open Steve.
Interview with Canadian F-Class Team F-Open Line Coach Richard.
Interview with the one of many skilled and recent winner 2016 Art Borne Memorial in Kamloops in F-Open Steve.
