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Did you guys notice the thread on Chinese surplus 7.62x39 dated '72 being potentially corrosive just vanished? Poof! Like it never happened.

So, where were we?

It is possible that older batches of chinese surplus could be corrosive.

I was just posting that tests done in dry environments like the prairies, skew perceptions, as doing little to nothing out there seems fine, if you look back at previous threads, while coastal folks report rapid corrosion when left uncleaned. Canam's primer over a nail test in a moist environment would settle this quickly.

Also, I was hoping to hear some more slams on surplus rifles and "unreliable" surplus ammo, as the dozen or so that I have fired thousands of rounds through have always gone bang, and hit the target out to 100m 100% of the time. Maybe I got the only ten good crates of x39, and three good crates of x54r, and special surplus rifles.:bsFlag:
 
Makes you wonder if they were trying to hide something by deleting the thread instead of letting people discuss it. They seemed awfully defensive and were acting like their business was being attacked. Not cool on their part.

Yes, that's the 1440 pack of the Norinco 7.62x39 factory 31 dated 72. Presumably Non Corrosive but they also sell the Corrosive stuff same size. Wonder if it looks any different besides the wooden crate coming in to them being in a different color?

Chinese 7.62x39mm FMJ 1440 Rounds (Non Corrosive) $399.95
Chinese 7.62x39mm 123 Grain FMJ 1440 (Corrosive) $259.95
 
Lot's of thread zaping lately. Hmmm. Firing up hatred towards whole groups of people is ok, question those that bring the almighty dollar, and you're out. Non person, non thread. Never happened. Thought crime.

I imagine it would be easy to get screwed up, I can't imagine the shipping and storage process being a particularily picky affair. There is probably warehouses of the stuff mixed side by side.
 
I just looked in Recycling, and the thread did get moved there.
That was because the thread starter, Lunartech, got into a bit of a #####fest with others here. He got banned as well.
 
That's too bad about the thread. Some of the posters made legitimate points there. And several people had concerns.

Near as I can tell the primer's aren't corrosive but the powder is quite dirty?

Semi Corrosive perhaps?
 
I think the importer and/or the dealers have been sold a bill of goods on this ammo.

IMO, 1972 is far too early to see non-corrosive in military packaging from the Chinese.
 
Stevo said:
I think the importer and/or the dealers have been sold a bill of goods on this ammo.

IMO, 1972 is far too early to see non-corrosive in military packaging from the Chinese.
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I think this is likely. Someone do the nail test, and post it here. Pay attention to the date stamps. In 1972, there was no international sporting market for chinese ammo, and military thinkers would have prefered the ultra sub-zero temperature reliability of corrosive primers, particularily in an army with exclusive use of chromed bores, and a vast northern border with Russia, and Korea.

But then again, maybe not. Test please.

Also, one poster in that vanished thread stated that MFS was corrosive, after their tests. Which caliber, and packaging? Old white boxed stuff, or current black/grey boxed stuff? How did you come to this conclusion?
 
If you look at US boards they'll tell you that they didn't see any NC Chinese 7.62x39 before the mid-eighties, and even that some of the ammo packaged as NC was in fact corrosive. Some folks view anything prior to '93 as corrosive.

The older MFS has been reported as corrosive M43 that had the bullets replaced with lead core to allow import to the US. IIRC, it was imported to Canada marked as NC, but it was not.

Checking the headstamps is important. Knowing what to expect from certain dates and factories will help you decide for yourself. Shooters of milsurp ammo need to be aware and informed.
 
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