Zastava Z5 vs Savage 93F

Since i owned the Z-5 in wmr and lr i would go with that. Both will be deadly accurate. I love Zastava's open sights wich are way better than Savage's. Zastava is all made of wood and steel. The only plastic part is the butt plate. Adjustable trigger on the Z-5 can be adjusted to be great. Blueing on the Zastava is beautiful. Way deeper than Savage's blueing. Personnaly, i find Savage rifles are ugly and i love what europeen do so... My vote goes to Z-5.
 
I've had many salvages and 2 zastava mp-22(same as z5).
Quality isn't even in the same league.
The savage looks cheap, feels cheap, and is made to be cheap. None of mine were as accurate as everyone on the internet seems to say.

The zastava's are made to feel like a real rifle, all steel, a real trigger, excellent bluing. The ones I had shot the same as the cz's I have. For $330 they are the deal of the century
 
I bought a Savage 93f I was not impressed with it. Accuracy was not great.
I gave a friend a good deal on it and bought a Zastava MP22.
The Zastava is very accurate with all the bulk ammo I have tried.
The Zastava is very nicely finished and the trigger is hard to beat.
I topped it with a Vortex 2 x 7 rimfire scope.

Terry

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I bought a new Zastava last summer for a young friend to plink, shoot gopher's and mainly learn to shoot with. I kicked around the idea of a CZ scout or farmer as well. The $100.00 plus difference in cost and the generally glowing reviews on this form made me opt for the Zastava. BIG MISTAKE . I do not have issues with the accuracy for price of this rifle. It looks pretty good on the out side. It came with 2 clip magazines , both of which gouge a groove out of the bullet before it get's in the chamber. And it has spent cartridge extraction issues. I have never had experience with savage rim fires so I can not comment on them. But I know now I should have spent a few extra bucks an went with the CZ.
 
Can-down said:
My buddy has a Zastava .22lr with extraction issues.....any one solved their extraction problems?
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premium ammo...or find the bulk ammo it likes with clean brass and without excessive lube, the 22lr seem to have a tight chamber, have only heard of the extraction issue with 22's


zastava 22lr mags need a bit of tweaking, haven't heard of 17/22wmr needing tweaking...but have also had to tweak savage mags before too..either way, on a cheap gun wouldn't base my decision on that

I like the zastava trigger more than the accu trigger

I would only buy a heavy barrel savage, they have outshot all the sporter barrel savages I've had (which I did not keep very long)

I'm happy with mine, they are both on the not selling list....although my next rimfire will likely be a cz, just so I know what all the fuss is about



 
BRvalley said:
premium ammo...or find the bulk ammo it likes with clean brass and without excessive lube, the 22lr seem to have a tight chamber, have only heard of the extraction issue with 22's
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This!!!. Don't use the dirtiest cheapest crap you can find. Not many 22lr's deserve that bad of treatment.
 
It doesn't seem to be price or dirt related.
The extractor just won't hook on to some of the rims. I can see where quality ammo will have better tolerances and maybe the bulk quality is dropping as the price goes up... But I've never had extraction issues like he is having with any of my non semi 22lr's.
I guess from what some of you are suggesting its an ammo fussy design when it comes to the extractors. I was hoping there was a fix beyond run what works.
He has found ammo that works and shoots well none of its really "cheap " these days but it is bulk.
 
Can-down said:
It doesn't seem to be price or dirt related.
The extractor just won't hook on to some of the rims. I can see where quality ammo will have better tolerances and maybe the bulk quality is dropping as the price goes up... But I've never had extraction issues like he is having with any of my non semi 22lr's.
I guess from what some of you are suggesting its an ammo fussy design when it comes to the extractors. I was hoping there was a fix beyond run what works.
He has found ammo that works and shoots well none of its really "cheap " these days but it is bulk.
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The only "cheap" ammo that would work well in one of mine was fed 525. Didn't shoot that good though. Other then that no problems with cci or higher up ammo.
 
Can-down said:
It doesn't seem to be price or dirt related.
The extractor just won't hook on to some of the rims. I can see where quality ammo will have better tolerances and maybe the bulk quality is dropping as the price goes up... But I've never had extraction issues like he is having with any of my non semi 22lr's.
I guess from what some of you are suggesting its an ammo fussy design when it comes to the extractors. I was hoping there was a fix beyond run what works.
He has found ammo that works and shoots well none of its really "cheap " these days but it is bulk.
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first step would be to give it a very thorough cleaning

if it's a major issue you could polish the chamber and check for any burrs

my zastava doesn't like cci standard velocity, they are excessively lubed...green tags, stingers, mini mags, velociters are no problem

it also likes American eagle and fed blue box...I get the occasional failure to extract with eley practice, maybe 1 in 20
 
Yup just like the others have said if you feed it cheap ammo you;ll probably get poor results.My Savage mark II BV,heavy barrel was dissapointing in accuracy until I tried the Lapua Standard Plus and CCI mini mags both shoot tight groups .The Bulk crap was all over the place.I have had 0 extraction issues with the Savage its smooth as silk cycling the bolt.For $345 Im very happy with it,love the accu trigger.BTW if you only use the Lapua Ammo or mini mags in the bolt gun it goes a long way compared too wasting it in the semis.Bottom pic is 10 shots each of Troy Landry mini mags.Middle pic is Lapua std plus
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BRvalley said:
first step would be to give it a very thorough cleaning

if it's a major issue you could polish the chamber and check for any burrs

my zastava doesn't like cci standard velocity, they are excessively lubed...green tags, stingers, mini mags, velociters are no problem

it also likes American eagle and fed blue box...I get the occasional failure to extract with eley practice, maybe 1 in 20
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Thanks I'll pass that advice along to my buddy, I do know that it is clean but it sounds like these guns are just a bit fussy on extraction for some reason.
 
i would avoid zastava like the plague.

i bought a brand new .22lr and it wouldnt eject (well, barely... the empty rolled out the side of the gun). then it stopped extracting (20% of empties needed poked out with a rod).

it got sent back on warranty and came back "fixed". the issue continued with absolutely no improvement.

then they sent me a brand new replacement. it had the EXACT same issue.

the store let me swap it for a marlin, which has given me ZERO issues.

i swore i would never buy a zastava again.

then canada ammo had its spring sale.... ive wanted a 7.62X39 bolt for a while now, but never wanted to drop the $800 or whatever for a CZ... i figured for $439 i will give zastava another chance. SO FAR it has been giving me issues as well (failing fire, empties getting stuck).

(Daniel at CanAm is being very helpful, and I fully expect he will stand behind this product and help me get it working smoothly - nothing but good things to say about Daniel and CanAm, my beef is only with the manufacturer, not the retailer in any way)

so I have had THREE BRAND NEW Zastava's, and so far not a single one of them has worked properly.
 
My experience exactly, except because of a move I did not get to test it until well after the warranty expired. I sold it through a store for 25 cents on the dollar. I did not have the heart to try to flog it to a member here.
 
popcanhunter said:
i would avoid zastava like the plague.

i bought a brand new .22lr and it wouldnt eject (well, barely... the empty rolled out the side of the gun). then it stopped extracting (20% of empties needed poked out with a rod).
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Don't buy an anschutz then either. Lots of problems posted all over about crappy ejection.
 
hometownhero said:
Don't buy an anschutz then either. Lots of problems posted all over about crappy ejection.
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I second that..........on the other hand my swindlehurst will throw empty brass 10 feet out of the gun with barely a flick of the bolt.

Go CZ and be happy, all others are just a stepping stone to the CZ
 
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