Zastava's post Remington story

No more Mauser banners in my hands for now, and this would have been another thread anyways, but those which are still attracting my interest are either 10.75X68, 9.3's or 9mm (orignal sporters, not ex-mil).
 
Zastava models listing;

Sporting Rifle M70 (a.k.a. Z98)
Finish; Blued
Stock; wood, can be "Piggy back" (Bavarian), Monte-Carlo, Mannlicher
Barrel ; 600mm (23.62") - Mannlicher 510mm (20")

Sporting Rifle M70PS
Finish; Blued
Stock; Polymer
Barrel ; 600mm (23.62") or 560mm (22")

Sporting Rifle M70PSS
Finish; Stainless Steel (AISI 416)
Stock; Polymer
Barrel ; 600mm (23.62") or 560mm (22")

Sporting Rifle M98
Finish; Blued
Stock; wood, can be "Piggy back" (Bavarian), Monte-Carlo, Mannlicher
Barrel ; 600mm (23.62") or Mannlicher 510mm (20")
** Military style swing type safety


Calibers (M70/Z98 and M85)

Capacity 5 rounds; .22-250 Rem, 6mm Rem, 25-06 Rem, 6.5X57, 6.5X55, .270 Win, 7X57, 7X64, 30-06, 8X57IS, 9.3X62,

Capacity 4 rounds; .308 Win, .243 Win.

Capacity 3 Rrounds; .264 Win, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag also available in M70 (Z98) only; .375 H&H, .458 Win Mag,

Sights, when present; Steel open sights, adjustable folding rear and ramped hooded front.

Sling swivels; either machined steel 1" rings (mostly in Europe) or Quick-detachable compatible studs

Sporting Rifle M85
Finish; Blued
Stock; wood, can be "Piggy back" (Bavarian), Monte-Carlo, Mannlicher
Barrel ; 560mm (22") or Mannlicher 460mm (18.11")
** Mini Mauser
Calibers; .22 Hornet, .222 Rem, .222 Rem Mag, .223 Rem, 7.62X39, .22-250 Rem

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/
 
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I appreciate all the back ground information that's been provided on this thread. It's good to know that with a few tweaks one can improve the smoothness of the bolt, lighten the trigger and refine the bedding. I've looked at them and wonder why different gun shops that carry them are showing price tags that can have a $200.00 or more price spread.
 
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on my side as a lefty there is no comparaison with a Cz 550. first only available in LH in 375 h&h second those Zastava are still on the market (dont know for how long) while the 550 are on the decline (cost too much to produce).

so if you find one that you like buy while they are here.

with a lot of love they re great tools.

love mines and i ll buy more.
 
I have a Zastava mini mauser in the Russian M43 round. I have polished and worked on this gun for well over a month and the bolt still binds at full rearward movement unless you hold the bolt just right. Any lateral movement to the right when pushing the bolt home stops it cold. Of course when manipulating a right handed bolt rifle with you right hand there is always lateral movement to the right. I have close to 800.00 tied up in this little gun and I am at my wits end in finding any solution to fix it. If I push the rear of the bolt with my finger it is as smooth as glass. Any help? I like the rifle well enough but I will use my SKS and unload the Zastava if I can't fix it.
Darryl
 
This is truly one of the rare threads ongun nutz that makes this site very much worth visiting.
Ivor
 
madtrapper143 said:
I have a Zastava mini mauser in the Russian M43 round. I have polished and worked on this gun for well over a month and the bolt still binds at full rearward movement unless you hold the bolt just right. Any lateral movement to the right when pushing the bolt home stops it cold. Of course when manipulating a right handed bolt rifle with you right hand there is always lateral movement to the right. I have close to 800.00 tied up in this little gun and I am at my wits end in finding any solution to fix it. If I push the rear of the bolt with my finger it is as smooth as glass. Any help? I like the rifle well enough but I will use my SKS and unload the Zastava if I can't fix it.
Darryl
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Frustrating when one encounters such issues. Could the trouble be due to some form of roughness that may still exist inside the receiver? Zastava makes a good product, however, the inconsistency of QC is visible. Hence, the price point I suppose.

The bolt on my M85 is much smoother now (weak extractor though) and I expect that to become better overtime. The trigger is quite rough. I'd be happy if the rifle groups under 2in @ 100 yards ......hunting Whitetails in ON doesn't generally demand absolute precision. :)
 
Ahsan, I am learning to operate the bolt without lateral movement to the right. It is super smooth on all rounds fed but the first one on the top left side of the mag well. There is nothing left to polish and I am just going to live with it. You are correct that most deer hunting in Ontario only requires MOA Deer with equals about 4" at 100. I am fortunate that my mini has a great trigger that needed no tweaking. The carbine will be fine I just need to shoot it and break it in more. I got the rings/mounts you suggested and I am now trying to find a scope that offers maximum bolt clearance for my fat fingers to turn the bolt.
Darryl
 
madtrapper143 said:
I have a Zastava mini mauser in the Russian M43 round. I have polished and worked on this gun for well over a month and the bolt still binds at full rearward movement unless you hold the bolt just right. Any lateral movement to the right when pushing the bolt home stops it cold. Of course when manipulating a right handed bolt rifle with you right hand there is always lateral movement to the right. I have close to 800.00 tied up in this little gun and I am at my wits end in finding any solution to fix it. If I push the rear of the bolt with my finger it is as smooth as glass. Any help? I like the rifle well enough but I will use my SKS and unload the Zastava if I can't fix it.
Darryl
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$800? That is CZ527 Carbine kind of money.
 
Baribal,

thanks a lot for all the info.

in the discussion i had with the Serbians about their rifles they cannot provide a LH action in stainless but anything else can be done including a LH mannlicher stock but the importer needs to ask for it ....

i was glad to find one LH 458 win mag. while written on the production i was never able to get while living in Europe so at least the Canadian importer is great.


i was able to compare the quality between the Rem, the batch named EAA and the Zastava ones and the last is the best by far and even better than the 7x64 i had years before in Europe ....
 
1899, no CZ but with tax and shipping the Zastava came to 770.00 not cheap as others have said about Zastavas in my opinion. If I buy another small bolt carbine in 7.62x39 it will be the CZ.
Darryl
 
madtrapper143 said:
I am now trying to find a scope that offers maximum bolt clearance for my fat fingers to turn the bolt.
Darryl
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If you can find a Leupold Rifleman or VX-1 in 2-7x32 or something similar....I tried those off a couple other rifles and those fit well easily clearing the bolt. The bolt handle, although built to scale is still small for fast handling with optics installed. For now, I have a Bushnell Trophy 1.75-4 ...will see how the rifle shoots before I change the scope or just use irons. Obviously, the CZ is an overall superior bolt gun in that calibre.
 
I have one of the Interarms Mark X branded Zastava M98 form the 1980's and it is much nicer finished than any of their later made ones. I think they still had some better trained and experienced gunsmiths/workers at that time and they put the extra effort in to them then because they really needed the foreign currency back then and it also was pre their civil war or Kosovo when Clinton bombed the shxt out of the factory.
 
My Zastava, a M70 in ".366 Wagner", ordered from Trade Ex arrived today, in time for my birthday.



The wood, actually darker than in the photo and darker than on the first rifle I was dealing on, isn't bad for the price. And as I mentioned on another thread, metal finish is pretty good and wood to metal fit not bad either. The bolt isn't as smooth as on other rifles I have but not a serious issue. I'm sure with a little touch up and polish work it'll be just fine. And, as I was made aware of by Ted, the comb may be a touch high for use of the open sights so I may have to correct that later. I haven't tested it out yet, just played with it but, over all, I'm satisfied so far.
 
I don't think you'll be disapointed Johnn. Not a HVA, but when compared to the plastic rifles of today, it's still a pretty good gift for an 'ole man to an 'ole man! :p - BTW, Happy Birthday.


Mkrnel,
I think that only a small amount of Mark X were stocked in Serbia. As far as I get it, Charles Daly did the same as Remington and mostly imported barreled actions.

Medvedqc,
Zastava is willing to sell their rifles, but it's the importer's work to select the products (and I can say I'm impressed that IZH Impex did so well that time).
It was a big surprise for me to see all these cool rifles flooding Canada. I wish that both continue their great work. Sad they sold these EAA rifles for that little money, and now have the imteresting stuff at the regular price that makes the resellers look like swindlers. But still, the current prices are still pretty good for such rifles.
 
Baribal said:
I don't think you'll be disapointed Johnn. Not a HVA, but when compared to the plastic rifles of today, it's still a pretty good gift for an 'ole man to an 'ole man! :p - BTW, Happy Birthday.


Mkrnel,
I think that only a small amount of Mark X were stocked in Serbia. As far as I get it, Charles Daly did the same as Remington and mostly imported barreled actions.

Medvedqc,
Zastava is willing to sell their rifles, but it's the importer's work to select the products (and I can say I'm impressed that IZH Impex did so well that time).
It was a big surprise for me to see all these cool rifles flooding Canada. I wish that both continue their great work. Sad they sold these EAA rifles for that little money, and now have the imteresting stuff at the regular price that makes the resellers look like swindlers. But still, the current prices are still pretty good for such rifles.
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Thanks guy. You're quite correct, it's not an HVA,;) or a Schultz & Larsen. There's better out there,:) and worse. The true test, for me, will be when I start burning powder in it. So far,from what I see though, I'm definately not disappointed. Not in the least.
 
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