Zeiss binos vs. Steiner binos

Too true, we normally fly over for a holiday and stock up on scopes etc, wont be happening for a while with the state of the economy in our house!
 
Zeiss Bino's vs Steiner Bino's

I have a pair of Kahles 10 x 42 Binos and a pair of Swarovski 7 x 42 NEW Binos. Both of these are rubber armour on a magnesium or Aluminum housing. Both are extremly sharp and brignt ( Swaro is slightly sharper ), but are both heavy. I have looked through many cheap plastic bushnell and tasco bino's over the years, and they all gave me a headache. However, they were all lightweight!
 
I wonder sometimes if there is some "I must have euro optics" snobbery. Are the euro optics really better than Japan's?
I think the average European is better than the average Japanese but the top end Nippons are cheaper, almost cheaper than average Euro such as Hungarian S&B but there is no discernible difference between Hungarian and Geman S&B, I pay for quality knowing it will last!In fact I often invest as much if not more than in the rifle!
As for quality, allegedly very little to choose from but whether the quality will last for 30 years?
 
I agree. I buy quality so that I won't have to repurchase. I think only a rich man can afford to buy cheap optics. He will only have to replace them.
 
I have a set of Steiner 10x50 Military's, they are a nice glass and so far have been fogproof in the rain. I like the auto focus design.
 
I did all my research and came within a hair of buying the Conquest 10 x 30's...... but then had to look through a pair of Leica Geovids with R/F ....

End of story, I had to get the Leicas! Bigger and bulkier, yes... but not overly so. And the rangefinder mode gets rid of another piece of equipment.

But I definitely liked the Conquest's!
 
If I have to keep it and use it, I would much, much rather have you give me a Zeiss Conquest scope than a Volkswagen car.
 
I wonder sometimes if there is some "I must have euro optics" snobbery. Are the euro optics really better than Japan's?

The short answer is..yes. But the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Certain price levels of bino's will give you best bang for the buck but once you hit the over $1000 binos then its takes a lot more money to get a little more perfomance. We sell from the $100-$3000+ binos and there is a big differnce in performance at the extreme ends comparison but when you get to the higher end it is a lot closer. I recomend going to your local optics guy and spend some time with someone who knows what their talking about...then go outside(I know this is not possible eveywhere) and compare the ones you have narrowed down your selection to. Everything looks good in the store under flouresent lighting (sometimes cheaper glass and coatings look brighter inside because the glare from the lighting appears to make the image brighter while the better coatings reject the glare inside). Phil.
 
I wonder sometimes if there is some "I must have euro optics" snobbery. Are the euro optics really better than Japan's?


There is some high end product made in Japan, the Kowa brand that few folks have heard of and the top of the line Bushnell Elite's have always been made in Japan. FS
 
Binoculars

Several years ago I wanted to get some better binoculars than the Tasco I was using. I puchased a used pair of IOR (8 X 42) binoculars and have been very pleased with them. They are made in Romaina and are using a good grade of glass.

I figure I got a good deal for what I paid for them. They seem well made.

Cheers,

Bill
 
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