Zeiss Conquest 3x9 Where are the UP/DOWN LEFT/RIGHT markings?

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I mounted an almost new Zeiss Conquest 3x9 scope acquired on CGN.

When I remove the adjustment covers the only markings on both adjustments dials are "1 click = 100 yards 1/4" U/R".

UR on both dials.

I have never encountered a scope that doesn't clearly indicate Up or Down on one dial and Left or Right on the other.

What am I missing here?

Norm
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
"U" in direction of arrow is up ,"R" in direction of arrow is right
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Of course.
The point is that both dials have the marking U/R. They are identical.

I resolved the matter by blacking out the R on the top dial leaving only the U for up.
On the windage dial I blacked out the U and left only the R for right. Now all is good.

But what is Zeiss doing marking both dials the same. Never have I seen a scope with U/R on BOTH dials.
As purchased (and if I was a newbie) I would have no clue how to adjust the scope without referring to the manual.

Has any one else have the same markings? Does anyone know why?
I have Leopold, Sightron, Nightforce and a couple of other brands on various rifles.

All are clearly marked.
 
My Conquests with the target turrets have only the U on the top turret, and the R on the side turret, but my Conquests without target turrets,have the same markings as yours. I see it, as simply a matter of cost cutting, by only having to produce one part.
 
stubblejumper said:
My Conquests with the target turrets have only the U on the top turret, and the R on the side turret, but my Conquests without target turrets,have the same markings as yours. I see it, as simply a matter of cost cutting, by only having to produce one part.
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I also thought it must be a cost cutting thing.

However the problems it creates can be huge.

I know which dials do what as I am a rifle guy.

But the average one or two gun hunter on his annual hunting trip who drops his rifle and checks the zero after hunting that day?
What does he do?
He finds the scope has indeed changed zero and wants to correct it.
Ooops.
Who carries a manual on a hunt?

Or to the range?

To me it is idiocy and I am just amazed that Zeiss would sell a scope like this.

Rant over.
Comments welcome.
Norm
 
U/R, UP or RIGHT, where's the confusion? An elevation dial is either up or down, always. Up is the opposite of down.
A windage dial is always left or right.

Its a cost cutting measure, albeit a minimal one. Many scopes only show one adjustment, such as an "R" on the windage dial. Most would assume "L" or left is then the opposite direction. ;)
 
bearkilr said:
U/R, UP or RIGHT, where's the confusion? An elevation dial is either up or down, always. Up is the opposite of down.
A windage dial is always left or right.

Its a cost cutting measure, albeit a minimal one. Many scopes only show one adjustment, such as an "R" on the windage dial. Most would assume "L" or left is then the opposite direction. ;)
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Where is the confusion?
I'll tell you where.
Both dials are identical.
Marked U/R.

Now I know and you know that the elevation dial is always on top.

But most people do not know that or do not remember that.

So what do they do?
Guess?
There is the confusion.

I am not aware of any other scope maker that has ambiguous dial markings.

Put a U on top and a R on the side.
Do not put a U/R on both dials.
 
The problem here is that both dials say the same thing and if you don't know the difference between the windage and elevation dials then you could be moving the POI up instead of right.
 
911alertme said:
The problem here is that both dials say the same thing and if you don't know the difference between the windage and elevation dials then you could be moving the POI up instead of right.
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Thank you.
Someone understands the problem.
It is utterly stupid to mark a scope like that.
Mind you, I like the scope and I like Zeiss.
It just boggles my mind such a great company would do such a thing.
 
Sorry, but I don't see the problem either. I can't believe that even a total newbie would not be able to figure out which turret is for elevation and which is for windage...seems intuitive. Maybe I am overestimating the average person's intelligence.
 
First time I have ever read this on the net.....its not a common issue at all. Its pretty simple. If the scope is mounted wrong the Zeiss logo on the caps and Zeiss lettering on the side will be #### eyed. Plus you can always read instructions on setting up and dialing in.
 
I also thought it must be a cost cutting thing.

However the problems it creates can be huge.

I know which dials do what as I am a rifle guy.

But the average one or two gun hunter on his annual hunting trip who drops his rifle and checks the zero after hunting that day?
What does he do?
He finds the scope has indeed changed zero and wants to correct it.
Ooops.
Who carries a manual on a hunt?

Or to the range?

To me it is idiocy and I am just amazed that Zeiss would sell a scope like this.
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You would have to be pretty clueless as far as scopes are concerned, to not realize that the vertical turret moves the point of impact vertically, and that the horizontal turret moves the point of impact horizontally. If someone was really that clueless, perhaps they should carry the manual wherever they go.

However, I have actually seen a scope mounted 90 degrees out, and the person couldn't figure out why moving the turret marked U/D actually moved the point of impact left or right. The person that mounted the scope obviously had no clue as to what he was doing.
 
jjohnwm said:
Sorry, but I don't see the problem either. I can't believe that even a total newbie would not be able to figure out which turret is for elevation and which is for windage...seems intuitive. Maybe I am overestimating the average person's intelligence.
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All I am saying is that Zeiss should mark the dials clearly like other manufacturers.
A new user should not have to think.
Put an R on windage and a U on elevation.

Ok, maybe the average new shooter can figure it out, and I am wrong.
 
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