In the event of a catastrophic failure with T97?
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I'm not sure anyone should be filing anything, without lubing and breaking in, first. I have two, and I froglube'd and fired, nothing more. Out of all the mags I've tried, (eight different makers), only one wouldn't feed reliably. By reliably, I mean without a single hiccup.
I was going to run a setup like this, and just shoot from my hip. I know what you are all thinking. "You are going to blow your #### off shooting like that!" But just like the Chinese M14, don't buy one, buy two and all #### loss will be prevented!
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Whereas after a few hundred rounds on three occasions mind wouldn't get through a single mag without a case separation, including the mag it came with.
I am not entirely convinced extreme cold weather wasn't a factor, outdoors in winter,but my other rifles perform flawlessly in the same cold weather.
Whereas after a few hundred rounds on three occasions mine wouldn't get through a single mag without a case separation on feeding, including the mag it came with.
I am not entirely convinced extreme cold weather wasn't a factor, outdoors in winter,but my other rifles perform flawlessly in the same cold weather.
Strange. By case separation, you mean that the base and primer broke free from the rest of the case?! Headspace issues plus sticky chamber? wacky. Maybe the barrel is set forward... get that fixed. Issues can happen with any new gun, google any maker, but that sounds un-good. Bad, in fact. Let North Silva take care of that.
How can we organize this ?
I am in lower mainland BC, Wolverines has the T-97 at $999, but I will try to contact CanAm and Wanstall as well to see if there might be willing to cooperate. We would probably also need to get the ACK from CGN admins.
In terms of operational requirement, we would need a reloader to cook overcharged / wrong powder rounds. We might be able to the test in Mission Rod & Gun with the proper security preparation, or on some crown land nearby. I have a couple of HD cam to be used for the shooting as well. A slow-mo / high fps camera might be nice as well.
edit: I am thinking of a torture test ala iraqveteran8888, ie. load to max spec, overcharge, fast burning powder, remote firing...
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Sorry maybe my terminology is wrong, I mean the bullet separated from the case, getting pushed in, or splitting the cartridge, by being slammed into the magwell wall and spewed powder all over the chamber, bolt, magwell, and raceway.
Usually this just jams the rifle. I am not sure what happens if the round then chambers by (un)luckily falling into place instead of winding up sideways. If it chambers it is probably going to be a squib and if I don't notice the squib... KABOOM.
I'm in for a share for sure, and willing to help organize. Don't have the skillz for reloading etc.
Crown land is probably best bet, clubs have liability issues.
Torture test is good, would also like to see if it fires after being submerged in water. The final kaboom should be to try and engineer an out of battery and failing that just plug up the barrel.
Obviously need some good cover and a looong string lol
Guns are scary. Pony dolls are safe.
I'm going to wear appropriate safety gear, employ common sense, and pay attention to what is happening while I shoot. Have fun with your dolls.
Now imagine that being plastic and right next to your face!
I ride motorcycles, a lot. They're inherently dangerous.
I don't ride with the cheapest, most poorly QC'd helmet and armour I can find.
Anyone and everyone is free to think I'm a total pansy. The opinions of others mean little to me.
I don't ride with the cheapest, most poorly QC'd helmet and armour I can find.
Anyone and everyone is free to think I'm a total pansy. The opinions of others mean little to me.
Same with the kel-tec RFB, shooting the much more powerful 7.62x51. Though, I have not seen a single "In the event of a catastrophic failure with Kel-Tec RFB?" All in all, it is the case of all bullpup. The KSG is polymer too, as is the Tavor.
