Wow, crap day at the range for the wife and I.

[Ironers]

So this last Saturday the wife and I packed up our pistols (hers Sig Sauer Mosquito and me GSG 1911-22) and when off to the Phoenix gun range to put in some target time. We were shooting Winchester M-22 and the first few mags for both of us when well.

Then the crap started happening.

For her she was getting dud after dud. One even mashed in so much I had to pry it out with a little allen key. She almost walked out but decided to burn off the rest of the 100 rounds she had so she would not have to look at it any more.

For me I had one or two duds, but the crumminess for me was that I was only getting enough recoil to eject the brass, but not enough to load the next round. This happened about a dozen times out of 100 rounds.

And the funny thing is the last time we when to the range, we both used M-22 and no problems. And we never had any problems with it in either of our 10/22s. So for our pistols we are going to stick to non-bulk 22lr. This week I'm going to pick up an number of different brands and see what works the best. We would prefer to stick to CCI mini-mags but I haven't seen any in Edmonton for months now.

 

[suberman]

I had 0 problems with bulk federal in my ruger mkiii

But I have heard of many problems with Winchester 22lr ammo

 

[big_e]

I had the same problem with Winchester 22lr this weekend each one jammed in my GSG when being extracted.

My Blazer worked no problem.
Looking at the cases there appears to be a very small crease with the Winchester 22lr near the rim after firing.

I will upload some photo's when i get home.

 

[Scopopulus]

I've been having problems with my .22's lately as well. I just picked up some CCI Mini-mags. Hopefully they will be less problematic.
I was having problems with the Remington thunderbolt and Winchester bulk...

 

[Trinimon]

Not sure if Winchester cheaped out over the years on the powder loads but I had some 20yr old Winchester Standard velocity that cycled in my Sig 226 22lr conversion kit. I had a couple duds and FTE but maybe 5 out of 300rnds. Never had issues with CCI Mini-mags either.

 

[Ganderite]

Part of the job of owning a 22 semi-auto is finding out what works and what does not. There will usually be a brand/type that does not work and usually another brand that works well.

If you find a real winner, buy a case of the same lot # because the next time it might not be so good.

You had a good day at the range. You found out what does not work in your pistols.

 

[Ironers]

You had a good day at the range. You found out what does not work in your pistols.

LOL, tell that to my wife! Oh well part of the learning process. We both has started shooting our 22lr pistols with Mini-mags, but that's all long gone now. We though to try out the M-22 stuff to see how it worked since we have a lot of it for our rifles, I guess it didn't work out so well in the long run.

 

[dan belisle]

Buy a 50 count box of every brand you can get your hands on. Try each of them in a clean gun, note reliability and groups. When you get the good ones (and you will), buy a crate of it. - dan

 

[Ironers]

Buy a 50 count box of every brand you can get your hands on. Try each of them in a clean gun, note reliability and groups. When you get the good ones (and you will), buy a crate of it. - dan

Thats the plan. But I suspect my wife and I will end up with different brands lol!

 

[lone ranger]

Here is the WORST CRAP ammo I've ever used. It made my Ruger 10/22 a SINGLE SHOT LOL. It will NOT cycle my Browning buckmark at all. Save your money !! Don't buy .

 

[kolik1]

The wife and i had a great day at the range. My old Model 64 Lakefield, and my 597 chewed through a box each of Blazer Bulk without issue. Even picked off some 12G shells at 100yards with the 17 HMR.

Sorry to hear about your crappy day.

 

[trapandhunt]

all my 22 pistols seem like winchester wildcats

 

[kb007]

Wow - my SR22 and Buckmark Camper love the Win Dynapoint.

 

[graydog]

Part of the problem is the Sig Sauer Mosquito, they tend to be a very fussy gun with ammo. I know when I had mine the only thing it worked well with everytime was CCI mine Mags.

On the other hand my GSG 1911 worked well with all kinds of ammo.

Graydog

 

[suberman]

when trying out various brands of 22lr in semis, it is always nice to have a 22 bolt gun with you. (ie use up all the stuff that does not work)

 

[Ironers]

Part of the problem is the Sig Sauer Mosquito, they tend to be a very fussy gun with ammo. I know when I had mine the only thing it worked well with everytime was CCI mine Mags.
Graydog

I just wish we could get it locally, I cannot find any. Even at the FT Road CT, which strangely enough has quite a few different brands of pistol ammunition but hardly any 22lr, and no firearms yet.

 

[MTLGUN]

Sorry you had a bit of a lousy day. And not be be a yellow cloud that followed you home, But .... tbh you maybe shoulda taken the hint and called it quits, or bought a box at the range.

We take for granted, to a very big degree, that we have access to such high quality ammo in such large volumes most days. However, as has been pointed alot often the last few years, times have changed quite a bit.

The factories can't keep up with demand for the most part. ( this in spite of heavy investment in expansion by a number of them. )

Saving $5 bucks fine, I know that not everyone is rolling in cash. But your safety is way more important. And the enjoyment of your day off and time together should be worth that if not alot more.

Next time you get a gun ( in particular a 22 ) and it gets that fussy with a round, put it away or buy/trade some one for a different brand. Not worth the risk, or the aggravation if you think about it.

Hope that next weekend work out better for the both of you.

 

[RickR1100]

Two years ago we had very bad luck with Winchester 12g target loads...they would fail to eject out of either Mossberg500, 870 and Rem1100. At first we thought the gun was broken...jammed action...but then became clear the brass expanded so much to grip the chamber extremely tight. Once we realised the ammo was at fault we stopped using it entirely.
I concluded then that Winchester quality control seemed to be lacking at that time.

Your experiences with poor rimfire from the same company make me wonder if their problems run deeper than a single bad lot.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

my gsg loves windchester m22 and remington golden bullets (the bucket and 525 boxes), i only wish it loved wildcats the same way.

my savage trr loves the winchester dynapoints.


as for a crap day, i wouldn't consider that a crap day... it might suck but i would just switch to another gun if it gave issues.

 

[plinker 777]

Just wondering...were these pistols dry or lubed prior to range day? My GSG's eat everything I throw at them, unless I froglube them. Big trouble, Big frustrations with lube or grease on them until they wear in a lot, like at least 10,000 rounds a lot!

I've run this M-22 and every other bulk pack ammo you could name with little trouble so long as the guns are basically dry when shooting. My advise is to clean them, lube them with gun oil sparingly to store, then wipe them down before you head to the range again.