Lot of whiney babies on this thread. Making jabs at the NFA and such. At least we have the NFA. If someone at the NFA heard from some half-drunk guy on the corner that these changes were possible, I'm sure they wouldn't be posting it. It probably came from a credible source, and it was only a list of possible things to come. Whats the harm in throwing it out there? I'm guessing most of the people insulting the NFA aren't members of the NFA, in which case you can take your comments and take a hike. You do pretty much nothing to contribute to the continuation of our sport/hobby and the expansion of our rights. I don't care if the NFA person posted it with a 50/50 intention of putting out there whats being discussed/drumming up conversation. Whats the harm? A lot of you just like to complain.
The AR-15 is made non-restricted overnight, what changes happen?
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This sounds like you are complaining.
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I guess I'll be one of the few to jump into the positivity circle haha. I hope it happens.
There's a good sport! Everything non-restricted, carried concealed, fully auto...
I know it won't happen in this country, but I can still dream
Stop with this, I know it won't happen. It can and will happen if we are prepared to work for it. I'm tired of reading and replying to people who don't understand what we are capable of doing.
I know for sure we can achieve complete deregulation, but we can only do it together. No Compromise.
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There's a good sport! Everything non-restricted, carried concealed, fully auto...
I know it won't happen in this country, but I can still dream
(Face palm)...
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I drool at this thought.....
non restricted length ARs do not have select fire switches (aka "fun switch") here in Canada, so I'm not sure why it's still considered restricted- plain and simple. just based on looks? how is it different from other non restricted semi auto rifles here?
responsible firearm owners should be treated with the respect we deserve. it's true that I do want some laws, so the irresponsible, crazed and violent don't have firearms, but they have to make sense - for the good of society.
they're awesome rifles and restrictive laws can take some of the fun out of it. I'd like to be able to shoot outside at a safe shooting place with a nice rifle
responsible firearm owners should be treated with the respect we deserve. it's true that I do want some laws, so the irresponsible, crazed and violent don't have firearms, but they have to make sense - for the good of society.
they're awesome rifles and restrictive laws can take some of the fun out of it. I'd like to be able to shoot outside at a safe shooting place with a nice rifle
^x3 and as for the possibility of AR's going NR (doesn't that have a nice ring to it "AR's going NR, AR's going NR"...) sure it's not all we are looking for when speaking of changes needed to the firearms laws here in Canada, but it would make plinking, camping and hunting with an AR possible again and that's a positive change.
Even if AR's were still considered Restricted but allowed to shoot anywhere a NR rifle could it would be a positive step in the right direction. We need to realize that the firearm laws in Canada are not going to change for the better all at once; it's going to take many small steps to get the rules, regulations and laws regarding firearms in this country to actually make logical sense and become what we all know they should be 'that being intelligent'.
However if we the firearms owners don't believe that can happen then who will?
If any change in the firearms reg.'s is a positive step in the direction we all want to go in then we should all be 'SUPPORTING IT TOGETHER' as that is are only chance, 'STANDING UNITED'.
Well you'll have to excuse me now as I'm off to order my first AR with a 20" barrel because when the changes come there won't be a 20" barrel to be had (here's to thinking positive).
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The business' involved in selling firearms here in Canada; particularly the ones selling AR rifles should recognize the potential sales/profit that would be gained from AR's going Non-Resricticted and put more pressure on the appropriate agencies to actually make this happen.
I for one know several people, myself included that would most definitely buy an AR rifle if they were to only be Non-Restricted (I'm in the process of buying my first regardless as I want to support the restricted community by adding one more AR to list of ownership here in Canada). Regardless if the 18.5" barrel length would still need to be in effect, the gun stores of Canada would not be able to keep enough 20" barrelled AR's in stock to keep up with the demand.
The whole firearms community in Canada would change overnight what with the popularity of the AR platform being so adapt at doing everything well. Hunting with an AR10 is the dream of many a gun guy and gal; this would also open up the door for many to start competition shooting as well now that the need to invest in two different rifles (one for hunting and one for competition shooting) wouldn't be necessary.
Seriously the AR even in .223 is the do it all rifle and in .308 it's capable of hunting anything in Canada w/o any concern for lethality even on the largest of game found here in the True North.
I can't speak as to the actual thought process that made the AR with a 18.5"+ barrel restricted as there are so many other 18.5"+ barrelled, center-fire semi-auto. rifles that are Non-Restricted shooting the exact same calibre at the exact same rate of fire with the exact same magazine capacity. Quite frankly I do not think there was any logical thought process going on when they made the AR Non-Restricted much like many of our firearm laws today. I know I'm stating the obvious to many of you, but if I sold AR's for a living I would be doing anything and everything to rally the troops and make Non-Restricted AR's a reality.
Sorry it's been a long night and I needed to vent, rant over...
I for one know several people, myself included that would most definitely buy an AR rifle if they were to only be Non-Restricted (I'm in the process of buying my first regardless as I want to support the restricted community by adding one more AR to list of ownership here in Canada). Regardless if the 18.5" barrel length would still need to be in effect, the gun stores of Canada would not be able to keep enough 20" barrelled AR's in stock to keep up with the demand.
The whole firearms community in Canada would change overnight what with the popularity of the AR platform being so adapt at doing everything well. Hunting with an AR10 is the dream of many a gun guy and gal; this would also open up the door for many to start competition shooting as well now that the need to invest in two different rifles (one for hunting and one for competition shooting) wouldn't be necessary.
Seriously the AR even in .223 is the do it all rifle and in .308 it's capable of hunting anything in Canada w/o any concern for lethality even on the largest of game found here in the True North.
I can't speak as to the actual thought process that made the AR with a 18.5"+ barrel restricted as there are so many other 18.5"+ barrelled, center-fire semi-auto. rifles that are Non-Restricted shooting the exact same calibre at the exact same rate of fire with the exact same magazine capacity. Quite frankly I do not think there was any logical thought process going on when they made the AR Non-Restricted much like many of our firearm laws today. I know I'm stating the obvious to many of you, but if I sold AR's for a living I would be doing anything and everything to rally the troops and make Non-Restricted AR's a reality.
Sorry it's been a long night and I needed to vent, rant over...
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Considering that, at the economy end, it's one of the cheaper semi auto rifles, and considering the ease with which one can change calibres, including non-semi auto configurations that utilize the same lower, it really could be a do-all rifle.
As for barrel length restriction. If that is kept in force then simple: under 18.5 and it stays on the range. Slap something longer on top and you're good for the bush. You cannot restrict an AR based on the bare receiver. Makes no sense. Making it conditionally restricted this way is also stupid, I know. It's baby steps.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
As for barrel length restriction. If that is kept in force then simple: under 18.5 and it stays on the range. Slap something longer on top and you're good for the bush. You cannot restrict an AR based on the bare receiver. Makes no sense. Making it conditionally restricted this way is also stupid, I know. It's baby steps.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
