Can you transport individual parts with out an att

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Someone asked me if you can take a part or a slide etc to someone to get blued without the statt etc , so I said I'd ask...anyone? thx
 
The only part of a restricted firearm you need an ATT to transfer is the receiver (frame) as that is the actual firearm.

Don't take my word for it though, call the Canadian Firearms Program and ask them, that's what they're there for!

Telephone: 1 800 731-4000 (toll-free number)
Email: cfp-pcaf@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
 
Yes, as long as you don't transport the frame/receiver. That's considered the gun, the rest is just stuff attached to it (according to gov. think,lol)
 
laminated said:
Someone asked me if you can take a part or a slide etc to someone to get blued without the statt etc , so I said I'd ask...anyone? thx
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As others said, just keep the frame at home and it's fine. I tossed my slide in my pocket and brought it to the gunsmith to have him install sights. Saved me having to call for the temporary ATT.
 
I don't remember seeing this in the RPAL course, so I am thinking this is another grey area...
If you call them they will probably tell you to put 5 locks, 4 chains, 1 dog guarding the other dog that guards the case where you keep everything in, and you must also hire private security to follow you from point A to point B, and your ATT PPTTDDTTDSDDRTDRSASD form, followed by 35 phone calls to your local CFO, which will never answer the phone.
lol
 
Seriously, no ATT required if transporting anything other than the frame. Removing the slide and taking it to your gunsmith or anyplace else is just fine.
dB
 
WRH said:
As others said, just keep the frame at home and it's fine. I tossed my slide in my pocket and brought it to the gunsmith to have him install sights. Saved me having to call for the temporary ATT.
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don't you have gunsmiths on your LTATT?
but yes, easier if it's just a slide to take just the slide, no double locks and papers to bring with you
 
Not all pistols have the frame as the registered part, Ruger MK 1, 2, and 3 for instance have the receiver tube as the registered part because that is where the serial number is.
Kristian
 
Avenida said:
I don't remember seeing this in the RPAL course, so I am thinking this is another grey area...
If you call them they will probably tell you to put 5 locks, 4 chains, 1 dog guarding the other dog that guards the case where you keep everything in, and you must also hire private security to follow you from point A to point B, and your ATT PPTTDDTTDSDDRTDRSASD form, followed by 35 phone calls to your local CFO, which will never answer the phone.
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It's not a grey area at all. As others have stated, the receiver is the registered part on most guns and requires an ATT. The rest it doesn't matter.
 
turbo_bird said:
Not all pistols have the frame as the registered part, Ruger MK 1, 2, and 3 for instance have the receiver tube as the registered part because that is where the serial number is.
Kristian
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That is certainly my understanding. The part with the serial number is the determining factor. That is normally but not always the frame.
 
Avenida said:
I don't remember seeing this in the RPAL course, so I am thinking this is another grey area...
If you call them they will probably tell you to put 5 locks, 4 chains, 1 dog guarding the other dog that guards the case where you keep everything in, and you must also hire private security to follow you from point A to point B, and your ATT PPTTDDTTDSDDRTDRSASD form, followed by 35 phone calls to your local CFO, which will never answer the phone.
lol
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Now that this is floating in the internet it will be CFO policy in ON and PQ next week.
 
I am with you, but this is not how 'law enforcement works', unfortunately, life, in most cases, is very 'unfair'.

I asked the OP's question several times, and I always come to the same conclusion: when sh!t hits the fan, public servants have a very particular way to think and solve issues out. Someone gotta be responsible and since it is your gun, in your car, and you are transporting it, guess what is going to happen? I really doubt they will tell you something such as: ' OH Please sir, move along and I hope you can get that beautiful slide fixed asap, in the meantime, I will make sure I learn more about gun laws and transportation, happy shooting!'.

The way they see it is more like:
How about your car being stolen, hence your gun parts (slide + barrel + other 'restricted' fun stuff) are now missing... That is some scary SH!T! specially when some slides are also numbered, yes, the same number as in your frame, guess what is going to happen if some mofo uses it for something stupid. You are now a liability, end of story. This all could be avoided by having the document that says that you are going from point A to point B.
Now, in the case that these are not barrels, nor slides, nor frames, and it does not even look like a gun part, then all the better and you are probably ATT free.

So, bottom line:
I am not saying 'yes go call them and make sure you follow the rules'; What I am saying is: why feeding the pigs???? it takes 4 minutes to cover your a$$, after all, the question being asked is 'CAN I transport X' so if the question exists, guess who is going to follow the same analytical thinking to screw you up and use you as an example...

Grey areas will always be used against you, never in your favour. Guess who is going to lose? Not them that is for sure!



juancarlos said:
It's not a grey area at all. As others have stated, the receiver is the registered part on most guns and requires an ATT. The rest it doesn't matter.
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For one thing, the CFC isn't going to issue an ATT for parts since there is reg #. Secondly, "feeding the pigs" as you put it is trying to get paperwork for something you don't need it for and causing paranoia. Should I get an ATT to bring home a pistol mag from my LGS? No, and it is just another "part". Thirdly, I never said it was a grey area, I clearly said it is NOT a greay area.

The OP asked the forum a question and I think it was answered as the law pertains to the situation.

You could go ahead and call to check but if you called three times to ask the same question you would probably get a different answer for every person that answered the call.

Avenida said:
I am with you, but this is not how 'law enforcement works', unfortunately, life, in most cases, is very 'unfair'.

I asked the OP's question several times, and I always come to the same conclusion: when sh!t hits the fan, public servants have a very particular way to think and solve issues out. Someone gotta be responsible and since it is your gun, in your car, and you are transporting it, guess what is going to happen? I really doubt they will tell you something such as: ' OH Please sir, move along and I hope you can get that beautiful slide fixed asap, in the meantime, I will make sure I learn more about gun laws and transportation, happy shooting!'.

The way they see it is more like:
How about your car being stolen, hence your gun parts (slide + barrel + other 'restricted' fun stuff) are now missing... That is some scary SH!T! specially when some slides are also numbered, yes, the same number as in your frame, guess what is going to happen if some mofo uses it for something stupid. You are now a liability, end of story. This all could be avoided by having the document that says that you are going from point A to point B.
Now, in the case that these are not barrels, nor slides, nor frames, and it does not even look like a gun part, then all the better and you are probably ATT free.

So, bottom line:
I am not saying 'yes go call them and make sure you follow the rules'; What I am saying is: why feeding the pigs???? it takes 4 minutes to cover your a$$, after all, the question being asked is 'CAN I transport X' so if the question exists, guess who is going to follow the same analytical thinking to screw you up and use you as an example...

Grey areas will always be used against you, never in your favour. Guess who is going to lose? Not them that is for sure!
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Avenida said:
I am with you, but this is not how 'law enforcement works', unfortunately, life, in most cases, is very 'unfair'.

I asked the OP's question several times, and I always come to the same conclusion: when sh!t hits the fan, public servants have a very particular way to think and solve issues out. Someone gotta be responsible and since it is your gun, in your car, and you are transporting it, guess what is going to happen? I really doubt they will tell you something such as: ' OH Please sir, move along and I hope you can get that beautiful slide fixed asap, in the meantime, I will make sure I learn more about gun laws and transportation, happy shooting!'.

The way they see it is more like:
How about your car being stolen, hence your gun parts (slide + barrel + other 'restricted' fun stuff) are now missing... That is some scary SH!T! specially when some slides are also numbered, yes, the same number as in your frame, guess what is going to happen if some mofo uses it for something stupid. You are now a liability, end of story. This all could be avoided by having the document that says that you are going from point A to point B.
Now, in the case that these are not barrels, nor slides, nor frames, and it does not even look like a gun part, then all the better and you are probably ATT free.

So, bottom line:
I am not saying 'yes go call them and make sure you follow the rules'; What I am saying is: why feeding the pigs???? it takes 4 minutes to cover your a$$, after all, the question being asked is 'CAN I transport X' so if the question exists, guess who is going to follow the same analytical thinking to screw you up and use you as an example...

Grey areas will always be used against you, never in your favour. Guess who is going to lose? Not them that is for sure!
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This is no grey area

If its not the registered part it requires nothing, end of story

Shawn
 
I agree and everybody here is correct.
I am just saying Slides have serial numbers on them (usually).
So...

Trying to explain to a police officer that this serialized part is not THE registered part ...makes me really uncomfortable...

That is all. Just my 0.00002 cents.

Cheers
 
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