Precision Back Up Flip Up Gun Sites
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Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Anyway you can beg or borrow a different sighting system. That much dispersion means something is crazy wrong. Might be the gun. Like above, go over it and check to make sure everything that is supposed to be tight is tight.
Not EOtechs in particular, just used that name as a well known example of a high end RDS. Hensolds or Aimpoint would have maybe been a better choice lol.
My point remains though, how often has one had to go to "back up irons" when running a good optic, glass or red dot.
Red dots and optics are luxuries. Iron sights are the base that you build on. Get a set of KAC Micros and you won't regret it.
On a scale of 1 to over 9000, how mad are you right now? I seem to have hurt your feelings. Sorry about that.
Lovely, I'm relieved.
Alas, my silly tales are purely anecdotal and mostly emanate from my service in the Arctic where I learned to avoid depending on anything that works with batteries / lens. I don't mind carrying my satellite phone, radio, GPS, or my rations in my clothing to keep them from freezing but carrying my optic in there as well and taking it out when I need to use it is where I draw the line. Hence, why I use irons, they always work. And yes, optics are luxuries that you can use when all the conditions that they need to work are met.
A person saying otherwise or saying I don't need irons at all leads me to believe they don't go out very often.
Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
We you have experience in arctic environments I don't and likely never will. Thank-you for your service.
I think perhaps we are both reading too much in to the other person is saying. I certainly am not in a position to tell YOU what YOU need but at the same time you can't say that everybody NEEDS irons (which is probably me reading more into your comment than you actually meant).
Most folks are also not going to be carrying a weapon where there life depends on it either in service or say hunting game that can kill you back. In either of those scenarios, I would want backup irons. Out side of that though, optical sights have developed in ruggedness and reliability to the point that I at least, will never have to worry.
The Arctic is a pretty extreme environment that most humans are never going to have to experience. For the majority, the environment where a weapon is carried, an optical sight won't be rendered useless.
I would also argue that optical sights are superior in getting new shooters up and running with success sooner. They are easier to use so shooters can focus on the fundamentals of position, breath control, trigger squeeze without worrying about a iron sight picture focused on the front sight rather than the target. Eventually that should be learned but it is not more important than the other fundamentals in my opinion.
For what it's worth I used to hunt primarily with irons, and have taken most of game with them. Irons are nice and light so I opted for that and practiced with them. I'm in the process of teaching my kids to shoot irons now too since they have had initial success with optics.
I think perhaps we are both reading too much in to the other person is saying. I certainly am not in a position to tell YOU what YOU need but at the same time you can't say that everybody NEEDS irons (which is probably me reading more into your comment than you actually meant).
Most folks are also not going to be carrying a weapon where there life depends on it either in service or say hunting game that can kill you back. In either of those scenarios, I would want backup irons. Out side of that though, optical sights have developed in ruggedness and reliability to the point that I at least, will never have to worry.
The Arctic is a pretty extreme environment that most humans are never going to have to experience. For the majority, the environment where a weapon is carried, an optical sight won't be rendered useless.
I would also argue that optical sights are superior in getting new shooters up and running with success sooner. They are easier to use so shooters can focus on the fundamentals of position, breath control, trigger squeeze without worrying about a iron sight picture focused on the front sight rather than the target. Eventually that should be learned but it is not more important than the other fundamentals in my opinion.
For what it's worth I used to hunt primarily with irons, and have taken most of game with them. Irons are nice and light so I opted for that and practiced with them. I'm in the process of teaching my kids to shoot irons now too since they have had initial success with optics.
